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This is the diary of the project.
Troy is sending me some early Dill seeds from about 1988. From these seeds Troy has gotten white squash and light orange pumpkins. We do not know whether the seed is still viable.
Troy added the following info: I have the pvp for Dills Atlantic Giants, I think I have a bitmap file of it on disk somewhere around here if you are interested. The white skin is from crosses with white squash. These pumkins are mostly squash with the colour charachteristics of a pumpkin. It was found that by crossing squash with pumpkins the resulting specimens were much bigger than the year before.
This was done for many years. 80 aprox, producing a hybrid called Dills Atlantic Giants and Atlantic Giants. The difference between the 2 cultivars being the shape. One is oblong the other is long. AG's have more of a true pumpkin background where Dill's AG's have a lot more squash background. People have started over the last 10 years to cross Dills AG's with AG's this produces a bell like shaped fruit. EG Lloyd 935. I will send you some seeds to experiment with. I have not tried to grow them for awhile so I am not sure if they will germinate. Give them a try and let me know.
Troy troynayler@golden.net
1. Try to germinate the seeds. I have pure crystalline gibberellic acid. Is it true that GA will increase the germination of old seeds.
2. I am not sure whether I will self, sib, or testcross any plants that grow.
3. One university site says 9 or more genes determine color of skin in Cucurbits.
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: Anderson 977 x Lloyd 935 seeds Date: 28 Mar 99 17:57:10 -0500 From: pumpkins@mallorn.com To: Indbio
Seed selections. (I had to go grab the jars from the freezer to see the crosses).
Here it is.
If you want any of these just E-Mail me your address. I will mail them out on the last day of this month.
Troy
troynayler@golden.net
Subject: Re: Lloyd935 x Anderson977 (1998) Date: 28 Mar 99 18:56:00 -0500 From: pumpkins@mallorn.com To: Indbio
Larry, I am planning to plant
These plants had the thickest vines I have ever seen. (By far) and we will see what i get from the OSGA this year. As far as what I am going to cross with what I dont know yet.
****I will cross the Nayler 508 With the Anderson 977 for sure, for some old school genetics**** Plants are vary similar in growth and pumpkin shape. Wall Thickness is prity good too.
I would like to get the charachteristics of the Zehr line for their root and stem size and growth rate. And the Dill line for their ability not to crack. The Zehr's line of pumpkins are almost red compared to the Anderson or "Dills line". They are a much taller pumpkin also. Seems the Zehr line is more of a Atlantic Giant Vs the Dills Atlantic Giant (longer and flatter). The Lloyed 935 grew what looked like an Atlantic Giant (Tall and round) near the stem and it had an extra lump growing in an elongated fashion near the blossom end. Looked kinda like a Bell. It was vary heavy for its size.
Anyways, I am still thinking of the crosses. I usually see what the plants look like in general and cross the best with best. I also do some late crosses just to get good seed. I know my seeds have good genetics and It is time to see what they can really do. I believe the mothers genes carry the traits more for the vines and leaves and the fathers side carrys the traits of the pumpkin in successive generations. That is what I have noticed in general. And I watch stuff like that very closely. I really think to grow big you can't have the squash like vines (thin with many more leaves but the leaves are smaller). U need the big thick vines and the large leaves with longer internodal segments betwwen the leaf stems. I personally saw the Zerh 1061 and you would "not believe" the circ. of the stem.
Troy
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Subject: Re: Seeds Date: 28 Mar 99 22:18:02 -0500 From: pumpkins@mallorn.com To: Indbio
The 815 produced pumpkins that were about 80~90 orange with some green patches on them.
Troy -----Original Message----- From: LIpumpkin@aol.com <LIpumpkin@aol.com> To: troynayler@golden.net <troynayler@golden.net> Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 9:08 PM Subject: Seeds
>Hi Troy-I'd love a few of each to try if possible-I'd feel more comfortable if >you allowed me to send you a SASBPE or a couple dollars to cover shipping and >handling...you are most generous but I'd like to help with the cost.The >Anderson 815 plant that you had...was it producing pumpkins or squash?I just >traded into the 815 and will plant it either this year or next and will be >hoping for a squash with it.Please let me know-thanks-Glenn >
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Re: Gibberellic Acid
Date: 30 Mar 99
LIpumpkin@aol.com wrote:
I have a seed from 1991 that I need to germinate and I understand that
by soaking in a 200 ppm solution of water and G A I can increase my chances
by replacing the gibberrellic acid lost in the aging process.(I read that
in the Archives in a post by Will Neily).The problem is that the only place
I've seen it for sale has it in quantities far exceeding my needs at a
price even further exceeding my budget($59.00).Does anyone know of a place
that sells it more reasonably in smaller amounts or does anyone have a
bunch they don't need?.Has anyone used this method and are there any other
"best ways" to increase the odds of germinating an old seed?...................................Glenn
Glenn