The Haub Genealogy Library
"The Largest International Online Collection of Authentic Haub Genealogy Data"


The Compact Index to Haub Genealogy Library

True Copies and Digests of Original Haub Documents
Bible Records...Biographies....Deeds............. Estates...Obituaries....Ship Lists
.....Historical Maps......Tax Records...Wills.....Military Records
Links to Haub Data in other Sites
Data received recently but not yet catalogued

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Iles Family Genealogy Page
The Dwight Iles Family of Iowa is descended from Konrad Haub of Frankfort, Germany (1850)

William Charles Haub II
William Charles Haub II was a coal mining engineer killed at a mine. Relationship of this family to other Haub familes is unknown. Does your family relate to it? Please take a look at it.

Konrad Haub Descendants Chart
Ged-Com Family Tree for Konrad Haub by Dwight Iles <= Try This !!
Family History by Margaret Haub
An autobiography by Howard Haub


The Verbose Index to Haub Genealogy Library

This is a growing online library of authentic international Haub documents and biographies. The documents mainly cover 1850 to the present. If all Haub work together to build accurate lineages of all Haub to 1900, then anyone interested in Haub genealogy may be able to connect his family to this data. Five Haub researchers have contributed data to this library. Please put copies of your Haub data and biographies in this library. When you get your Haub genealogy online, even if only at an early stage, send a message to Haub Genealogy Library so the library can install a link to your pages.

Bookmark this page because it is the main index page. The library materials are generally only available online because I do not have time for copying and mailing items. In additional to genealogy data the library seeks to provide information about the times in which our ancestors lived. First time visitors should read the introductory information formerly located on this page.

Other Features of this Library

The HAUB Keywords INDEX is useful for finding persons, events, places, and documents in this site and other sites. In early development.

The Haub Geneology Directory: e-mail addresses, URLs, phone numbers, US Mail addresses of Eddleman researchers. Please add your name. Gives earliest proven ancestor and main genealogy interest of each genealogist.

Chronological List of Haub Events and History.

Index page for true copies and digests of original Haub documents: wills, court actions, bibles, deeds, ship lists, military records, letters, e-mail archives, family traditions.

The index for the Haub Workshops shows the topics for a series of pages dedicated to studying unproven linkages of Haub families and other vexing problems. Please send your ideas and questions.

Haub Resources on Other Internet Sites

MESSEAR (Free) (MESsage SEARch) is a very useful service conceived and programmed by Glenn Ray Eddleman. It is not limited to Haub. You simply type in any surname(s) of interest to you. Glenn has subscribed to a hundred geneology discussion groups around the world and 500 to 1000 geneology messages arrive at his computer every day. Each message is automatically compared for exact match to every name in your list. If a match is found, that portion of the message and the original header is sent to your email address. This is geneology research made easy. You never miss a message, but you don't have to read 500 single-spaced pages every day. However, you may have to learn Porteguese or Yiddish to understand all the messages. So far all messages have been in English, but many foreign news groups are being searched. This is a popular service; on 97 Sep 2, MESSEAR had 215 new subscribers.

General Geneology Resources this short linked list contains Glenn Eddleman's favorite online sources from his 10 years of online research into 80 surnames.

Recent Updates to The Haub Geneology Libarary

My goal is to put all HAUB documents such as court, land, and bible records online where everyone can see them and point out errors. Thus errors of transcription are eliminated. Therefore, THIS SITE WILL CONCENTRATE ON QUOTING WRITTEN RECORDS WITH EACH SOURCE CITED. It will take a year to get all the citations in place. We will also place family traditions online so other families can point out differences in traditions in hopes that a greater truth will emerge.

The Haub of the United States

At this point we only have information on a Haub family of Harrison County, Indiana. There appear to be two unrelated families of Haub in the County.

Webpages by Haub Descendants

Indiana Biolab by Harold Eddleman, devoted to microbiology and Eddleman Genealogy Library

You can Assist this Haub Project

We do not know where Haub came from in Hesse/Darmstadt. Here is a way to find out. Some one really should try this. http://feefhs.org/frl/de/placeorg.html This should be the top Nr. 1 project of the Haubs.

Send your Haub data now.


Written by Harold Lee Eddleman, Ph. D., Indiana Biolab, 14045 Huff St., Palmyra IN 47164 Suggestions, corrections, and comments are appreciated: Contact indbio@disknet.com

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Harold Eddleman. My mother was Bertha Leola Haub. My lineage is Conrad Haub, born in Hesse/Darmstadt, Germany==> George H. Haub ===>Bertha Leola Haub ===> Harold Lee Eddleman ===> Glenn Ray Eddleman. I am a microbial geneticist. President of Indiana Biolab.

Margaret Haub. My father was George H. Haub. My lineage is Conrad Haub born in Hesse/Darmstadt/Germany ===> George Haub ==> Margaret Haub.

Howard Haub. My father was George H. Haub. My lineage is Conrad Haub born in Hesse/Darmstadt/Germany ===> George Haub ==> Howard Haub.


I begin this site in May 1997 and wrote the following page which will be worked into the above.


Revised 1997 May 27
The Haub website is in the early stages of construction. I welcome Haub email
from all Haubs of the world.

Konrad Haub Family
in America

Written by Harold Eddleman, Ph.D., his great grandson.
Harold Eddleman lives eight miles from the original Konrad Haub farm.

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| Other Haub Families in the World |


Introduction

According to my Uncle Howard Haub, Konrad's father had lost one son to the King and did not want his other sons to be cannon fodder. Therefore, he wanted them to go to America. Two sons came to America. We do not know if they came together, name of ship, name of father of Konrad and Philip, or any other details. We only know that Philip settled in Pennsylvania and Konrad settled a mile west of New Salisbury IN in the karst country, farmed, and had 12 kids. Konrad was married before he came to USA and the first child was born in Liverpool, England enroute to America. He never corresponded with parents or brother that we know of and we know nothing of Philip or the folks back in Germany. However, about ____ a woman, perhaps named Minnie Dinsmore, visited the Haubs of Harrison County, being a descendant of Philip of PA.

Another Haub family from Germany settled 1/2 mile from the Konrad Haub farm, but they were unrelated and two families never visited as kinsmen. There is a story that a member of that other family went to Germany looking for roots and found the two families were related. I have not checked on that story. When I was with the US Army in Europe in 1955-57, I sought my German roots but I was told that HAUB is not a German surname. My part of the clan pronounces the name "haupt"; but I often pronounce it "Haub" so people can see the name as spelled. Gary Haub of the same clan pronounces it HauB with emphasis on the B. About 80 miles west of Palmyra is the town of Haubstadt "City of the Haubs", but I have never learned anything about Haub families there. One of my first interests is leaning whether Haub is a surname used in Germany.

I began writing this website 1997 May 25. Glenn Ray Eddleman, my son, began entering Haub history in his databases about 1993. I began working on Haub Geneology about age 12 by asking George H. Haub, son of Konrad Haub and my grandfather, questions about his origins. My grandfather did not have much to say that was not written in the family bible. My grandfather could recite the German alpabet, but that was about it. As far as I was concerned, he could speak German, but I do not recall that he spoke any German numbers. Perhaps, I did not think to ask about numbers. In 1958, after I had put considerable effort into learning German and jhad returned from Army service in Germany and looked forward to talking German with my grandfather the efforts broke down. He confined to my father, "Harold thinks he can speak German, but he can't." I think George Haub was speaking the language of the peasants of 1840's and he could not understand the my Standard German promoted by Hitler to made the Nation one people. My grandfather could only mutter "Hoch Deutsch" and dismiss my efforts to talk to him. More later about the use of German in Harrison County, Indiana.

When Konrad came to America, it was the common for church services to be in German, but the American born childern regarded themselves to be Americans and avoided retaining the Old World languages and customs. That was the genius of the Great American Melting Pot. Immigrants were coming from all over the world, but they were grateful to be away from the continual European Wars and anxious to become Good Americans. Konrad came to 20 years before the Civil War. While no one in his family was at the right age to serve in the Civil War, that war brought the young men of the nation together under English speaking officers and doubtless played a great role in uniting the nation as English speakers. World War I and the loss it caused American families caused a hatred of German things and caused further rebellion of the young people against speaking German. Many German speaking parents avoided speaking German when their childern were present so that the kids would have to learn English.

The Haub Name

When I was in Germany , October 1995 to October 1997, as a First Lieutenant in the U.S. Army Signal Corps, I made an effort to trace my German roots. I visited a German sculpter a few times each week during the 8 months I was stationed near his home. had traced family history back to about 1450 and he spent some time helping me.

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Written by Harold Eddleman, Ph. D., President, Indiana Biolab, 14045 Huff St., Palmyra IN 47164

Suggestions, corrections, and comments are appreciated: Contact Harold Eddleman indbio@disknet.com


Subject: Re: Haub Genealogy Library Date: 31 Oct 97 11:18:36 -0500 From: Seli5@aol.com To: Indbio

Thanks for the e-mail about your web page, I took a quick look at it and was very impressed, that has to take a good deal of effort. I'm still here, with the time I''ve been able to spend on family history I've been hung up on other lines. I plan to start looking at the Haub side again as soon as I get some other things in order. My mother, who was a Haub, did meet with her brothers and several cousins a few weeks back and there seemed be a good deal of interest. They didn't get a lot of hard facts down but it was a start. My parents have now gone south for the winter so I will not see much of them till spring. I did get copies of some older photos, two where of my ggrandparents family, William and Sophia (Klinker) Haub, with all the children and another outdoor picture, probally in IN, with a number of unidentified family members. I also received copies of several obituaries, marriage anouncements, etc. from a female cousin that was there that I had been unaware of. I not have the information with me and don't remember any details. I will piece it together later and pass it along to see if between us we can make a match. As I recall this line had relocated to Iowa but appeared to have been somewhat independent of mine. It was apparent that a number of the Haub family members moved to Iowa though many return later to Indiana.

Let me know if there is information that I could provide to help with your project. I will plan to keep an eye on your page. I still hope to make the trip to Indiana sometime, although now it looks to be next summer at the earliest.

Keep up the good work,

Dwight Iles


1997 Oct 31

Garry Haub called and said

Haubstadt Indiana was founded by a George Haub. It was called Haub Station, but later changed to Haubstadt.

HLE: "About 1944, our grade school rode a bus to the Evansville Zoo. When my mother saw the HaubStadt water tower, she was very interested. I have never heard anymore. I think I have been told that no Haubs live there in my livetime."



Endlich habe Ich einer Deutscher Haub gefinden -- Harold Eddleman in a Berlin Newspaper.

Tengelmann profitiert von längerer Ladenöffnung

BM/dpa Mülheim - Die Tengelmann-Unternehmensgruppe steigt nach rund 60 Jahren wieder ins Großhandelsgeschäft ein. Nachdem der breit gefächerte Familienkonzern im Geschäftsjahr 1995/96 (30. Juni) weltweit erstmals die Umsatzmarke von 50 Milliarden DM übersprungen hat, will sich das Unternehmen vom kommenden Jahr an wieder als Großhandelsgesellschaft für eigene Firmen und Dritte betätigen. Das sagte Tengelmann-Chef Erivan Haub am Donnerstag in Mülheim/Ruhr.

Die neuen Ladenöffnungszeiten kritisierte Haub als beschäftigungspolitisch unzureichend. Grundsätzlich hätten die veränderten Ladenöffnungszeiten zu beachtlichen Umsatzsteigerungen von Filialen in Geschäfts- und Einkaufszentren sowie in Innenstädten geführt, sagte der alleingeschäftsführende Gesellschafter des Familienunternehmens weiter.

Sie seien jedoch immer noch zu kurz, um in den Geschäften Personal in zwei Schichten zu beschäftigen und somit mehr Mitarbeiter einzustellen. Auf der gleichen Quadratmeterzahl Ladenfläche, auf der in deutschen Tengelmannfilialen 60 bis 80 Mitarbeiter beschäftigt seien, arbeiteten in USA 600 Mitarbeiter. Haub sprach sich für Öffnungszeiten bis mindestens 22.00 Uhr an Werktagen und 18.00 Uhr an Sonnabenden aus.


another Haub http://www.peak.at/alber/index.html


Subject: Re: HAUB CONNECTION Date: 26 Sep 97 10:13:26 -0500 From: jimcat@sunline.net To: Indbio

> > Harold, > My connection with the Haub family is by way of my great > grandfather's brother, George Bopp, who married Annie E. Haub in 1879 > at Harrison Co., IN. The information I have states that she was born > 2/19/1859 at New Salisbury, Harrison Co., In. and died there 1/14/1900. > The other Haub on my family tree is Margaret Haub, who according to my > information was born 7/28/1826 in Lower Saxony, Germany and married > John G. Heinz. They had six children, one of which married a Heinle > which I refered to in my last e-mail. My grandfather married a Heinle. > If you are interested on information on the Bopp and Heinle famlies > let me know. I would be interested on any information you are willing > to share on the Haub family. > Jim Warden


Subject: RE: Konrad Haub Descendants Date: 3 Jan 98 09:13:34 -0500 From: dziga@hotmail.com To: Indbio

TO: Dr. Harold Eddleman

Dear Dr. Eddleman:

I have recently begun researching my family geneology and I stumbled onto the Indiana BioLab. If my calculation is correct, we are Second Cousins, Twice Removed on two branches of the family line - the Haubs and the Klinkers. I am the Great Grand-daughter of Cora Heintz (nee Haub) and the Great Great Grand-daughter of William C. Haub & Sophia M. Klinker. Lucy Klinker and Sophia were sisters.

Here are my updates for your site:

Ia., 10. William * 1871, Rooster Run Farm; + 1956, Harrison County, IN; buried Central Barren Cemetary; oo Sophia M. Klinker > Ezra, Mary Kahl, Cora Heintz, Rosa Wolfe, Hugo W.

Cora Elizabeth Heintz (nee Haub) * November 30, 1894, Harrison County, IN; + March 26, 1983; buried Central Barren Cemetary; oo William J. Heintz, March 15, 1921 > Nora Compton, William Jr., Calvin, Norman, Melba, Marvin

Nora Compton (nee Heintz) * April 17, 1923, Harrison County, IN; oo Granville George Compton >Donald, Leighton, Ryan

Donald Compton * January 10, 1943, Harrison County, IN; oo Norma Louise Long, April 4, 1964 >Cheryl Ellette, David Eric

Cheryl * March 27, 1965, Corydon, IN David * April 28, 1967, New Albany, IN

Leighton * Phyllis [?] > Leighton, Jr., Amanda Ryan * Rolla Schmidt > Wayne, Elizabeth, Christopher

William Jr. * April 28, 1925, Harrison County, IN; oo Fannie Setzer > Mike, Rita Hanby, Ronda Sue & Sondra Lou

Calvin * August 20, 1927, Harrison County, IN; oo Mary Belle Setzer > Danny, Lanny, Tony

Norman oo Yvonne Martin > Vicki Jacobi, Roxanne Uhl

Mary Kahl (nee Haub) oo Frank Kahl > Morris, Georgia Dean, Milford

Rosa Wolfe (nee Haub) oo Louis Wolfe > Robert, Doris Ellis, Carmen Ollis, Darrell

Ezra Haub oo Eva [last name unknown] > Audrey Iles, Robert, Ralph, Leroy, another un-named girl died in infancy.

Hugo W. Haub oo Edith Kahl; married two years before his death; no children.

Since you are also related to the KLINKER side of the family, here is additional information you may find interesting.

The children of Henry H. Klinker and Mary F. [?] are: Sophia Haub, Cora Avery, Stella Miller, Lena Libka, Annie Miller, Lucy Haub, Ben, Louis, Cliona Royce, plus 4 additional brothers names unknown.

Please let me know if you have any questions. My phone number in New York City is (212) 505-8367. I know that some of my information is incomplete, even with living relatives.

Thank you so much for putting your information on the internet. I have plans to go to Germany this spring where I was going to visit my motherís ancestoral roots in Mecklinburg, but now I will also make a stop in Hesse/Darmstadt.

Sincerely, CHERYL E. COMPTON

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Subject: Jim HEINZ Date: 6 Jan 98 10:57:04 -0500 From: dziga@hotmail.com To: Indbio

Dear Jim,

Harold Eddleman copied me on the e-mail that he sent to you yesterday. Iím interested to know if you have any additional information on the HEINZ family. Unfortunately, I have very little to share with you.

I am the Great-Great Grand-daughter of PHILLIP HEINZ: Born July 13, 1867, Died October 27, 1893. (I believe these are the correct dates. His tombstone was a raised-relief carving and very weather worn.) He is buried at Central Barren Cemetery. He was married to Barbara Hartman: born September 12, 1868, Died April 5, 1954. She is also buried at Central Barren Cemetery with a separate tombstone. However her last name is spelled as HEINTZ. My Grandmother, Nora Compton, told me that this is because when their son Clarence was killed during WW1, the US government shipped his body back to the states with a clerical error, adding the extra letter. Instead of petitioning the government to correct Clarenceís name, Great Great Grandmother Barbara changed the familyís name.

Phillip and Barbara had 3 children: William, Maude, May and Clarence.

WILLIAM J. HEINTZ is my Great Grandfather, who married CORA ELIZABETH HAUB. (Therefore one of my two connections to Mr. Eddleman.)

Their daughter, NORA COMPTON is my Grandmother, and her son DONALD is my father.

I have additional information (marriage, children, etc.) regarding the children of Phillip and Barbara, as well as William and Cora if that should interest you. Most of my family still lives in Harrison and Floyd County, though I have been living in New York City for the past 10 years. If you know about any thing beyond Phillip HEINZ, please let me know. Do you have a website with this information? I havenít compiled mine yet, but I plan to put it on the internet soon. Thank you!

Sincerely, CHERYL E. COMPTON (212) 505-8367

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Subject: Re: Haub Genealogy Library Date: 31 Oct 97 11:18:36 -0500 From: Seli5@aol.com To: Indbio

Thanks for the e-mail about your web page, I took a quick look at it and was very impressed, that has to take a good deal of effort. I'm still here, with the time I''ve been able to spend on family history I've been hung up on other lines. I plan to start looking at the Haub side again as soon as I get some other things in order. My mother, who was a Haub, did meet with her brothers and several cousins a few weeks back and there seemed be a good deal of interest. They didn't get a lot of hard facts down but it was a start. My parents have now gone south for the winter so I will not see much of them till spring. I did get copies of some older photos, two where of my ggrandparents family, William and Sophia (Klinker) Haub, with all the children and another outdoor picture, probally in IN, with a number of unidentified family members. I also received copies of several obituaries, marriage anouncements, etc. from a female cousin that was there that I had been unaware of. I not have the information with me and don't remember any details. I will piece it together later and pass it along to see if between us we can make a match. As I recall this line had relocated to Iowa but appeared to have been somewhat independent of mine. It was apparent that a number of the Haub family members moved to Iowa though many return later to Indiana.

Let me know if there is information that I could provide to help with your project. I will plan to keep an eye on your page. I still hope to make the trip to Indiana sometime, although now it looks to be next summer at the earliest.

Keep up the good work,

Dwight Iles


http://feefhs.org/fdb2/1869/sf1869m.html had the Haub listed below

San Francisco Call Newspaper: - 1869 Marriages -

FEEFHS Web-Base File: SF1869M

Marriage Record Numbers 1869M-1 thru 1869M-1744

Copyright © 1996 by Jim W. Faulkinbury and FEEFHS

First Posted: 16 June 1996

See these pages for answers to the following San Francisco Call web-base questions:

Haub, Susanna......married......Maybel, Hans......1869M-651


ubject: RE: Konrad Haub Descendants Date: 3 Jan 98 09:13:34 -0500 From: dziga@hotmail.com To: Indbio

TO: Dr. Harold Eddleman

Dear Dr. Eddleman:

I have recently begun researching my family geneology and I stumbled onto the Indiana BioLab. If my calculation is correct, we are Second Cousins, Twice Removed on two branches of the family line - the Haubs and the Klinkers. I am the Great Grand-daughter of Cora Heintz (nee Haub) and the Great Great Grand-daughter of William C. Haub & Sophia M. Klinker. Lucy Klinker and Sophia were sisters.

Here are my updates for your site:

Ia., 10. William * 1871, Rooster Run Farm; + 1956, Harrison County, IN; buried Central Barren Cemetary; oo Sophia M. Klinker > Ezra, Mary Kahl, Cora Heintz, Rosa Wolfe, Hugo W.

Cora Elizabeth Heintz (nee Haub) * November 30, 1894, Harrison County, IN; + March 26, 1983; buried Central Barren Cemetary; oo William J. Heintz, March 15, 1921 > Nora Compton, William Jr., Calvin, Norman, Melba, Marvin

Nora Compton (nee Heintz) * April 17, 1923, Harrison County, IN; oo Granville George Compton >Donald, Leighton, Ryan

Donald Compton * January 10, 1943, Harrison County, IN; oo Norma Louise Long, April 4, 1964 >Cheryl Ellette, David Eric

Cheryl * March 27, 1965, Corydon, IN David * April 28, 1967, New Albany, IN

Leighton * Phyllis [?] > Leighton, Jr., Amanda Ryan * Rolla Schmidt > Wayne, Elizabeth, Christopher

William Jr. * April 28, 1925, Harrison County, IN; oo Fannie Setzer > Mike, Rita Hanby, Ronda Sue & Sondra Lou

Calvin * August 20, 1927, Harrison County, IN; oo Mary Belle Setzer > Danny, Lanny, Tony

Norman oo Yvonne Martin > Vicki Jacobi, Roxanne Uhl

Mary Kahl (nee Haub) oo Frank Kahl > Morris, Georgia Dean, Milford

Rosa Wolfe (nee Haub) oo Louis Wolfe > Robert, Doris Ellis, Carmen Ollis, Darrell

Ezra Haub oo Eva [last name unknown] > Audrey Iles, Robert, Ralph, Leroy, another un-named girl died in infancy.

Hugo W. Haub oo Edith Kahl; married two years before his death; no children.

Since you are also related to the KLINKER side of the family, here is additional information you may find interesting.

The children of Henry H. Klinker and Mary F. [?] are: Sophia Haub, Cora Avery, Stella Miller, Lena Libka, Annie Miller, Lucy Haub, Ben, Louis, Cliona Royce, plus 4 additional brothers names unknown.

Please let me know if you have any questions. My phone number in New York City is (212) 505-8367. I know that some of my information is incomplete, even with living relatives.

Thank you so much for putting your information on the internet. I have plans to go to Germany this spring where I was going to visit my motherís ancestoral roots in Mecklinburg, but now I will also make a stop in Hesse/Darmstadt.

Sincerely, CHERYL E. COMPTON

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bject: Re: Konrad Haub Descendants Date: 5 Jan 98 15:26:32 -0500 From: dziga@hotmail.com To: Indbio

Dear Harold: Thank you for your nice letter. Your Aunt Margaret is correct. I do freelance film production as a Production Coordinator. I've been doing a lot of script-writing and hope to sell the next big box office hit sometime in the near future.

The reason I'll be in Germany is because I plan on attending the Berlin Film Festival in March. I don't speak or read German, but a good friend who is quite fluent is going to be traveling with me -- if all goes as planned.

I don't have specific plans yet, but will keep you informed as they develop. Thanks again for your information.

Sincerely, Cheryl E. Compton

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ject: HEINZ CONNECTION Date: 6 Jan 98 19:44:40 -0500 From: jimcat@sunline.net To: Indbio

Cheryl & Harold, Good to hear from the both of you. It would be strange if we all had Haub & Heinz on our family tree, but were not related. I have put all of my HEINZ records on my web-site. Take a look and let me know if you make a connection. Jim Warden <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/a/r/James-M-Warden/index.html>


Subject: Re: HAUB-L Date: 7 Jan 98 09:22:54 -0500 From: Seli5@aol.com To: Indbio

I would be interested. I appreciate the effort that you have put into this. I check your web pages often. This is a very busy time of year for me, I coach two basketball teams for my daughters so my free time is limited. I will keep in touch and when time pemits pass on some of my information which may be of interest.

Thanks, Dwight


Subject: Re: HEINZ CONNECTION Date: 7 Jan 98 09:40:44 -0500 From: dziga@hotmail.com To: Indbio

Jim, We are indeed related: I am the Great great great grand-daughter of John G. Heinz.

As I related to you yesterday, (Generation 2, 4.)Phillip Heinz married Barbara Hartman. The name on this branch of the family changed to HEINTZ after a governmental clerical error when Clarence's remains were shipped back to the states during WWI.

I don't have my book here at work to figure out how we are actually related, but it looks like were some kind of "__th cousins to the whatever removed". I'll figure it out tonight.

Thanks for your info. I'm in the process of making my webpages. I'll link up to both yours and Harold's as additional information for other researchers.

Sincerely, Cheryl E. Compton

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ubject: Some more KLINKER info... Date: 14 Jan 98 10:43:24 -0500 From: dziga@hotmail.com To: Indbio

I have some additional information from Rita Hanby (my 1st cousin, once removed)regarding the KLINKER family that I thought might interest you:

Re: Mary F. (wife of Henry H. Klinker) Her full name was Mary Francis Lampking

I sent my mother out on a mission to try to locate her tombstone...I'll let you know if I come up with additional info.

Cheryl

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The message below may explain why I found George Haub so hardto understand

Subject: [germanway] Re: Do you have any Idea about Kassel? Date: 14 Sep 98 04:22:34 -0500 From: germanway@onelist.com To: Indbio

From: TheGonch <Daniel.Goncharoff@frankfurt.netsurf.de>

I find German to be a hard language to speak, not to read. Since Latin is a dead language, and one tended to speak only other's orations (Rem publicam, quirites, vitamque omnium vestrum...), speaking and, even worse, listening wasn't all that important.

My German is good enough so I can read most of the general and local news articles in the newspaper without having to look up more than 5 or 6 words. In face-to-face conversation I range from full engagement and understanding to no comprehension at all. (That said, I have the same problem with some British accents too. I think anticipation is an important part of listening, and when you hear something other than what you expect, you fall behind.) I find telephone conversations almost impossible, since there is no body language to help make up for the loss of words.

I find the German spoken in Frankfurt to be relatively easy to understand, although the local 'Hessisch' dialect is often imposible even for Germans to understand. I have heard many jokes and complaints from Germans about the number of incomprehensible 'Hessisch' operators working for Deutsche Telekom, which makes it impossible even for them to get service over the phone. I think that is why there are so many DT stores around.

Funny you mentioned Dutch. I went to Amsterdam last year, and went to a movie in English with Dutch subtitles. Ads were shown in Dutch, which struck me as sounding like German with an American accent...

Regards Dan Goncharoff Frankfurt

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Subject: Re: Klinker family name Date: 14 Oct 98 12:50:32 -0500 From: dziga@hotmail.com To: Indbio

David,

Here is all the information that I have on the name Klinker in my lineage, but perhaps it will provide you with a link to a cousin or other relative.

And for your convenience, most of this information is on Harold Eddleman's HAUB-family geneology site at: http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab/hg.htm

My great-great grandparents: Sophia M. KLINKER (1870-1941) married William C. HAUB (1871-1956); they had one son named Hugo (1898-1926)

Sophia's sister, Lucy C. KLINKER (4/8/1879 - 2/4/1915) also married into the HAUB family. She married William's brother George H. HAUB (11/18/1875 - 10/25/1960) -- they had 5 children.

Sophia's and Lucy's parents were: Henry H. KLINKER (3/27/1836 - 9/27/1929) and Mary Francis LAMPKING (6/29/1846 - 2/23/1916).

All of these above people are buried in Central Barren Cememtary, near Palmyra, Indiana. My grandmother says that she remembers great-great grandfather Klinker, but he never talked about where he came from or life before the farm in Indiana. I have always been interested to find out more about him because we share the same birthday.

Unfortunately, I do not have any KLINKER information beyond this, but I am assuming that Henry & Francis were immigrants because there was a large influx of Germans in that area, plus all the other branches of my family came to America during that time period.

Incidently, how did you come across my name to begin with? Through Harold's page or Dwight Iles?? Just curious...

Good luck, Cheryl Compton Los Angeles, CA


Date: 7 Sep 98 11:52:14 -0500 From: donna_haupt@hotmail.com To: Indbio

Mr. Eddleman,

It is a pleasure to meet you. Unfortunately, I do not know the exact whereabouts from which my ancestors came. I have been meaning to do some research in this very area. In fact, last week I found a site dealing with this very subject. My father's grandparents came directly from Germany. Funny thing is, until now, I haven't really inquired about their names or history. I know that on my father's side, at least through his generation, they are 100% of german decent. I know that Haupt means "Main", but in the older days, it meant "Head". I have tons of relatives on my fathers side, yet know very few of them because our immediate family's were not very close. I grew up not having much of a relationship with his parents (my grandparents), nor any of his brother's or sister's. Most of his relatives live up north, in a variety of places. But as I said, I would really like to find out more. Funny thing is, I work for I.N.S., but when looking up the Haupt name, I found approximately 250 entries. What I need to do is make it a priority to find out from my father some names, for which I could start from. As for Haub, I don't know much, however I am scheduled to go to Germany this week on business. I have a very good friend there who could possible assist in finding out more about that name. I will inquire while there, and let you know more.

Right now, I am trying to relocate to Germany for personal reasons. I am therefore trying to learn the language. Right now, I have learned such things as: body parts, months, days, times, numbers, some greetings, and simple sentences. I have been working on verbs, definite and indefinite articles, plurals of nouns etc. Along with my friends there in Germany, and a few books and computer programs, I am able to practice on my pronunciation of words. Boy has it been a slow process! So when I saw your site, I jumped on it, because everything, and anything can only help right now. My goal, is to at least have some conversational skills in German, for I have two employers willing to hire me, if I can prove such gains. According to one of my friends, all I have to do is be able to speak in everyday situations, even if it is "broken". One of the companies is an American company, who needs people with my background, so they are willing to be very flexible.

I look forward to seeing the other sites you have mentioned. Since you already inquired about "Haub" while visiting Germany, I'm not sure what else I could learn that you already didn't know, but you never know! Thanks again for writing me, and I will let you know what I find.

Donna-


Dear HaubList Members Many Haub do not have access to computers. Encourage them to write any family history they wish on paper and you can type it in and send it to HaubList@listbot.com . Keep in mind that the messages are archived and are visible to anyone via the web. I recently learned Howard Haub built a model of Konrad Haub's pioneer home. As a child I had heard various incidents and now having seen the model the incidents are easier to understand. As an example, I had heard that when one of the older boys was destined for a spanking, he would run up in the second floor which had a trapdoor over the stairs which could be shut to reduce the loss of heat on cold days. Safely upstairs the spankee would lower the trapdoor and stand on it. The other boys though that was clever the first time, their Dad said, "He will eventually open the door." The HaubList page of the Haub Genealogy Library requires only a mouse click to read the archive, send messages, or join. See the URL below. 5 Haub have joined HaubList. Two active members of our group have not joined and I sent them personal letters today. There must be other online Haub that I do not know about.

-- Harold Eddleman


Subject: Fwd: Klinker family name Date: 12 Oct 98 17:07:18 -0500 From: dziga@hotmail.com To: Indbio

Harold, I thought I would forward this to you since you are also related on the Klinker side. I don't think I have any additional information on Sophia Klinker, but perhaps she was a sister or cousin?

I'm just now getting settled in California. I moved into my apartment on Saturday and I'm working over at 20th Century Fox. For the moment, I've been concentrating on Mom's side of the family, but if I come across any new Haub information, I will let you know.

Cheryl

----Original Message Follows---- >From dlburm@iowaconnect.com Fri Oct 9 22:08:42 1998 From: "dlburm" <dlburm@iowaconnect.com> To: <dziga@hotmail.com> Subject: Klinker family name

Hello, My great, great, great grandmother was Marie G. Klinker. The only information we have is that she was born 1804 in Hanover, Germany and was married to Gerald Jacob Martini. Do you have any Klinker family history that may show a Marie Klinker born in that year?

David Burmester Hampton, Iowa


Philip Hobb (corkyabc@webtv.net, 03/28/99 10:41) To: Indbio

My name is John w Hobb Jr. I am trying to research my roots. My grandfather came from Prussia to the United States in the beginning of the 20th century. At Ellis Island Immigrations they changed his name to Hobb. If you can help me please E mail me. Thank you, John w Hobb Jr.


Re: Philip Hobb (indbio@disknet.com, 03/28/99 11:09) To: Indbio

HaubList - http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab/hg.htm

corkyabc@webtv.net wrote: > > My name is John w Hobb Jr. I am trying to research my roots. My > grandfather came from Prussia to the United States in the beginning of > the 20th century. At Ellis Island Immigrations they changed his name to > Hobb. If you can help me please E mail me. > Thank you, > John w Hobb Jr. I guess you found me via my Haub web site. I will send CC: of this to the Haub@listbot.com mail list. Hobb certainly does sound like Haub as many of the Haub here pronounce it. My family pronounces it Haupt which is German for main. If you have not been to my Haub webpage the URL is below How do you figure the name was spelled prior to Ellis Island? I am not sure how our Haub was spelled in Germany. The old timers in my family insist I am nuts for thinking it was spelled some other way in Germany. I would like to hear more from you. -- Harold Eddleman Ph.D. Microbiologist. mailto:indbio@disknet.com Location: Palmyra IN USA; 36 kilometers west of Louisville, Kentucky http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab/hg.htm

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Re: Philip Hobb (corkyabc@webtv.net, 03/29/99 05:46) To: Indbio

His name was Philip Haub. After arriving he was in the United States Army in Kansas city Kansas or Kansas Missouri.