Several Edelemann came to America during the mid 18th Century via the Port of Philadelphia. We do not know of any Edelmann arriving via any other port in any century. However just before the Rev War. There were some Edelmann in Maryland that are not documented and it is possible one or more of them arrived via Port of Baltimore.
There are several "Edelmann" in USA who do not know of any relationship to the 18th Century immigrant Edelmann. Perhaps, we should look into the possibility that their ancestors are among the 3,000,000 Germans who arrived in America between 1800 and 1900. At present we know of only two Edelmann with that great mass of Germans. Those two were Bruno Edelmann and Jacob Edelmann.
Subject: Germans to America in 19th century Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 11:35:42 -0800 From: "Harold Eddleman, Ph.D." <indbio@disknet.com> Organization: Indiana Biolab To: EDDLEMAN-L <EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com> CC: RobtBehra@aol.com
Dear EDDLEMAN-L; cc: to RobtBehra@aol.com [Robert Behra, I thought you might like to see how widespred the effects of your carefully written letters can be.] Listed below is a superb message on the 19th Century Germans to America. It would appear 3 million or more Germans came to America then; add in the other countries and it is likely this message is about several of your ancestors; but not your Edelmann ancestors for only Jacob Edelmann (Roy's ancestor) and Bruno Edelmann (John's ancestor) are the only Edelmann known to us as coming to America during the 19th Century. It was a big surprise to learn about Bruno and Jacob for after after 40 year's study I was beginning to think all Edelmann came to America before the Rev War. Have you noticed that the big leaps in our research have come when someone, often a new member of our list, asked a new question. It seems a few of our new members do not know of any relationship to the 17th Edelmann immigrants and feel we are not looking at periods that would help them. Can you propose a way to address their interests. Perhaps we could have one or two research projects each month. For the January A research question I propose a workshop topic "Edelmann to America during the 19th Century." Our main interest is Edelmann individuals, but also a listing of ports German -speaking people come to, conditions in Europe and anything else that might help us find any Edelmann who entered America then (maybe we should include Canada and Australia?). Let this be our main research topic for the first 2 or 3 weeks of 1988. For the January B project (or February project) we might look for Edelmann immigrations to other countries--maybe we can get some Edelmann of England, Sweden, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, and Finland to join our group. Looking at other countries would break the boredom of my 45-year search for John Eddleman's dad (husband of Catherine). Here is my first contribution to Edelmann to America during the 19th Century. It is by Robert Behra. I have been to these URLs a few times and they are very good. I suggest you study the second URL for an hour or so because it will give you a lifetime perspective of how the big german communities (including my great-grandfather Konrad Haub and most of this County) came to be here. ---- Subject: [ALSACE-LORRAINE-L] Alsace Emigration book? Date: 30 Dec 97 22:08:12 -0500 From: RobtBehra@aol.com To: Indbio
The Alsace Emigration Book, by Cornelia Schrader-Muggenthaler, is a two-volume compilation of approximately 22,000 names of people known or believed to have left Alsace for the US. Although there are some late-18th-century and late-19th-century emigrants listed most of the names are those of people who left in the period between about 1830 and 1870. The author used a wide variety of sources, and the information available varies from source to source. This book does not begin to be a comprehensive list of people who left Alsace, and does not include information for emigrants from Lorraine, a separate region.
The Alsace Emigration Book is still in print and can be ordered from the publisher, Closson Press, in Apollo, PA, or from bookstores (http://www.amazon.com has it). It is also available in over 125 libraries in the US.
One volume of Germans to America has more names than both volumes of The Alsace Emigration Book put together. There are now 58 volumes of Germans to America published, taking it through 1890. Jim Eggert maintains a list of the volumes published at
http://www.genealogy.com/gene/www/emig/GermansToAmerica.html
A principal difference in the information provided is that The Alsace Emigration Book almost always gives the name of the town from which a person came. The other difference, of course, is one of focus. The Alsace Emigration Book is exclusively for those who left Alsace, while the Germans to America series lists anyone who travelled on a ship 80% of whose passengers had German names. For a detailed review by Michael P. Palmer of the methodology and completeness of Germans to America go to
http://www.genealogy.com/gene/www/emig/gta-revu.html
The bottom line is that neither of these sources is comprehensive.
Robert Behra
John and Ute Edelmann, Dayton, Ohio
Roy G. Edelman 4432 Woodland Forest Drive Stone Mountain, GA 30083-1882
(404)294-4417 (after 7 PM)
or
re850826@edelman.cnchost.com
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eg940 - Edelmann to America during the 19th Century. by Harold Eddleman.
Bruno Edelmann and Jacob Edelmann are the only two Edelmann listed in EGL as coming to America during 1800-1900. I wrote John Edelmann and Roy Edelman privately inviting them to Editor or Co-Editor this effort. Both replied immediately expressing interest; but neither said anything about accepting editorship. Each is planning to write something for eg940 about his immigrant ancestor to aid those who have not visited their Websites. One might suppose we would know everything about immigrants who came in the 19th century, but that is not true. My gr-grandfather Konrad Haub came to USA in 1850 had sons 7 miles from where I lived and gave a big German bible to my grandfather with center pages for family records and seemingly never breathed a word to anyone about the name of his father or prior life in Germany. We do not know where he lived or his parents names. He arrived with a wife and one son and all lived to old age on the original family homestead, donating land for a German Reformed Church and Cemetery on the farm. The graves are unmarked. Perhaps three million Germans came to USA during 1800-1900. Were only 2 named Edelmann? Lets all pitch into this search. We can begin by listing the ports and routes Germans used to get to America and what they did when they got here. If we make an effort, this can be a short course on german immigration 1800-1900; I have heard 1847 was the year the mass immigration from Germany began. You prob had non-Edelmann ancestors arriving during this period and you should learn things which will help you study them. Send anything you have about Germans to USA to EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com during January; especially any rumors about Edelman. I will copy your message to the bottom of eg940.htm; then in mid-January or February Roy and John can compile the data in hopes of giving us a better understanding of whether Bruno and Jacob were the only Edelmann coming to America during the 18th Century. While page eg940 might be our eventual goal, John and Ute and Roy have their own excellent websites and I suspect it will be easier for them to place some or all of their work on their own websites. If they use that approach, eg940 will contain links to those pages on their own sites. There are many subscribers to EDDLEMAN-L who have not written much; is there any chance your Edelmann ancestor came during 19th Century? If you have already written, refresh our memory and there seem to be some new subscribers.
I tried the site listed below but got an error that it didn't exist.
At any rate, I'd be happy to put togther a brief synopsis of the emigration of my ancestor. We have no info regarding his port of entry, however. Let me know what I should do with the data... email it to you, copy the page and add it., or ..?
I may have mentioned previously, that I do have a book of the history of the area where Bruno emmigrated from. It is in German, of course, but mentions many different family names that emigrated from this area.
In time, perhaps I can relate some of that info as well.
John.
> ---------- > From: Harold Eddleman, Ph.D.[SMTP:indbio@disknet.com] > Reply To: indbio@disknet.com > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 1998 3:59 PM > To: jedelmann@dayms1.daas.dla.mil > Cc: re850826@edelman.cnchost.com > Subject: Edelmann to America during the 19th Century > > Dear Roy and John > What do you think of making 19th Edelmann to America as our first > research project of 1998? I know John at first wondered whether he > really fit in EGL we only had 18th Edelmann before he joined us. > I might well turn out that many in our group descend from 19th > Century > immigrants. I think several only know their ancestorage back to about > the Civil War. I think the big German immigration occurred 1847 to > 1870+. I notice Wyoming has lots of Eddleman according to Census. > While > I know many Eddleman from Indiana and Illionis went west, some could > be > new immigrants. > I am writing to ask one or both of you to Editor > http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab/eg940.htm which I have started. > For your convenience I have copied your current directory entries > below. > A brief sketch of your lineages in America might help those to lazy > or > inexperienced to visit your sites. I do not mean you need to list > living > or recent persons which you do not want to name (some banks use > mothers > maiden name as authorizations--I have heard). > In EGL each person sets his own guidelines. > Since some like Bill and I are so concentrated on 1770-1800 North > Carolina, it would be a breath of fresh air to get two editors who > know > what they are writing about rather than guessing from old documents. > > Roy G. Edelman..... re850826@edelman.cnchost.com........ 4432 Woodland > Forest Drive, Stone > Mountain, GA 30083-1882, (404)294-4417 (after 7 PM), EP=Jacob Conrad > Edelmann from > Reinrod Germany near Darmstadt arrived in America 18??. Seeking info > on > sibs of Conrad. > *John Edelmann.OH.........jedelmann@daas.dla.mil.......... > http://mozart.daas.dla.mil/genealog.html > John and wife Ute are translating the WHE pages to English for this > site. His ancestors are from the > Bad Kissingen region of Germany > *James Ja > -- > Harold Eddleman, Ph.D. Microbiology, Genetics, Mol. Biology, Education > mailto:indbio@disknet.com http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab > This site has Farms Around the World, Eddleman Genealogy Library, > and > science projects and info for amateurs, teachers, gardeners & > farmers. > Indiana Biolab micropropagates virusfree sweetpotato, strawberry, > and > caneberries. Our sweetpotato outyielded certified plants 3-fold. > http://wwbbs.otherside.com/PUBLIC/HOMEPAGE/haroldeddleman_303/INDEX.HT > M > This second site has Home Science Projects; fun for parent and child > >