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Edelmann on Shiplists to America:
Relatives and Friends on the Same Ship,
or on Other Ships.

An Eddleman Genealogy Workshop

The goal of this workshop is to use shiplists:

• to connect proven Edelmann families in Europe with Eddleman lineages in America.
• to identify family groups which arrived on different ships and different years.
• to identify groups of relatives or friends who came from the same region in Europe.
• to identify relationships formed in America (friends, wagon trains, army buddies, familes joined by marriage) because they may have migrated together in America and some members of the group may have left records that the Edelmann did not. Some of these collateral families might become members of the Edelman family tree via marriage.

This chart may need a different design as this project develops. Please suggest changes in EDDLEMAN-L. For example, an extra column, for listing each immigrant, might aid accounting for individuals who did not have produce surviving offspring. When this table reaches stable form, I plan to add links to other pages to help readers understand lineages and go to them easily. See symbols index below the table.

In this early stage of development, I may use a different format for some ships to discover the arrangement most useful for this web page. All these ships arrived at Philadelphia. Did any Eddleman arrive via Boston, New York, Baltimore, or southern ports? Europeans usually had to pay a fee to be released by their lord to travel to another state (manunission sp); such records and church records may show a person was going to America. Some disappeared without paying or tried to convince the lord they were a burden on his lordship and he would benefit getting rid of them without payment of mamusion--sion fee.

   Origin of the Eddleman Clans of America 
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 0 | European Family |  Ship List      | Edelmann  ------->  American Clans
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1              ?                   Alexander and Ann         Peter Edelmann            Ancestor of Joseph Kenworthy Eddleman, Charleston, SC
                                      1730 Sep 3             ......
                                    Philadelphia .....................
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2     Hanss David Edelmann         Richard and Elizabeth     David E. and wife Anna Maria left these records in America ==> none? 
      Citizen of Rott, Alsace          1733 Sep 28           Filb Jakob E. & wife Margaretha ==> ?Daniel Addleman; changed surname; died Loudoun County,VA had sons: 3? 
             !                         Philadelphia!         Anna Maria E. & husband ___ Bousser ==> (no family found), 
Notes: Baltazar E. (4) sick ==> no record in America; ___ Boweser ==> no record in America                                                        Philadelphia         and Husband ..... and son Baltazer   "
Main facts: David Edelmann (49) and wife Anna Maria (54) were too old to produce childern in America; We have not found any record of them in America
  Their son Filb (Phillip) arrived with sick son Baltazar, but we hear no more about him; Maybe had David, Daniel, others?
  Their dau Anna Maria Edelmann came to America with husband (Bousser, Bowser,....,....,) and his ____ _____ Bowser
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3                                     Albany                Weber had doubts; therefore will take
                                    1749 Sep 2              take time to decide Dr Leo Eddleman, President of several Baptist colleges

Dr Henry Leo Eddleman wrote that this Peter Eddleman, Sr. came from County of Erbach, Germany
owned land in Bucks County PA (now Lehigh); moved to Rowan County across from Organ Church
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4 ? (F.1) VIIIe                      Brothers                  ?
John Adam Edelmann                   1750 Aug 24                ?
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5 Wilhelm Edelman                     Priscilla                 ?
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Perhaps this is a better format for this list.
   SHIP         EUROPEAN ANCESTER           PERSON ON SHIP (see Weber lists, etc.  ==> American Records, lineages, etc.        LINEAGE OF AMERICAN DESCENDANTS                         AMERICAN CLAN
6 Brothers      (A.)FII -> (A.) VIIx Lorenz Edelmann --->(A.) Hans Peter VIIIa & Wife Margareta Schäfer       xxxy --> xxx -->  zxt use links
  1752 Sep 22        \                  "            `-->(A.) VIIIc Hans? Adam E. (single)
                                        "      \--------> see xxxx Came on a different ship in 17xx
  Philadelphia  (A.)FI\I -> (G.) VIx  Hans Barthel ------>(G.) VIIe Joh. Justus E. 
                                        "         \----->(G.) VIIh Joh. Georg ?Capt Rev War no male childern
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7                                      Phoenix               Hans Michael Addleman (not an Edelmann not in this site)
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8                                      Neptune               Joh. Adam ? (R.) vIIIc?
                                       1754 Sep 30 
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9                                    Mary and Sarah 
                                       1754 Oct 26 
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10 Stangenroth                        Ship not known          Bruno Edelmann
                                     John Edelman will supply date and etc.
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X Records in Europe said these individuals were going to America, but we have not found them in America:
____ _____ paid manmisis at Zweirbtbruek
____

? = Uncertain or unknown
?? = Probably wrong
! = very certain

Notes on individuals or cell:
Notes are keyed by cell number which run by rows 0,1,2, ... and colums A,B,C,D. Thus Note number 2Db refers to row 2, rightmost cell in that row and the second entry in that cell. I may need to introduce another column so col 4 = immigrant; col 5 = designation of clan; This would aid accounting for immigrant who apparently produced no surviving line. This merely a first attempt.

Data below this line will be discarded.

Suggestions, corrections, and comments are appreciated: Contact Harold Eddleman indbio@disknet.com

Another source I have on this family is Robert Addleman's book on the Addleman family. All the Addlemans in the U.S. apparently descend from Hans Michael Addleman or Daniel Addleman. It appears Daniel originally spelled his name Edelman and some evidence suggests he may be from the Phillip line (possibly a son). This family (Daniel) later moved to Virginia.

• one is the Hans Michael Addleman from Lancaster Co, Pa., who was the progenitor of many of the present-day Addlemans (and usually kept the "A" spelling).
• The other fought from Maryland (I think--I will double check) and filed for a Rev. War pension from Greene Co., TN in the 1820s. His probable brother Leonard Eddleman also filed for a Rev. War pension from TN. Sherida Eddlemon and I have puzzled over the parentage of these 2, and she has some circumstantial evidence that their father's name was Adam. This is NOT the Adam from Lancaster Co., Pa., because he stayed there, died, and had his estate settled without ever leaving Pa.
• Another Adam was in Northampton Co., Pa., in Williams Township Congregation Church and other records. I really wish I could see these Maryland deeds--I may try and get film of them from the local LDS Family History Center

. ----Bill

Subject: Hanss David Edelmann zu Rott 1733
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 18:33:39 -0700
From: "Harold Eddleman, Ph.D." <indbio@disknet.com> Organization: Indiana Biolab
To: trendel@monza.u-strasbg.fr
Click here to see the answer

My ancestor Hanss David Edelmann left Rott, Alsace, in 1733 and arrived in Philadelphia 1733 Sep 28 on the ship Richard and Elizabeth. For information about this family in America see http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab/eg907.htm I am seeking information on his parents. I am also interested in the farming and other conditions of life in Rott and Steinseltz in 1733. I have been told many people of 1733 in Rott might have come from France or Switzerland. Does his name of Edelmann indicate where I should look for his parents? In America, he attended Protestant churches. He was age 49 according to the ship list which gives a calculated birthdate of 1684. I want to add a page of details about Rott in 1733 and before. I can read some French and German.
-- Harold Eddleman, Ph.D.
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