Written by Harold Eddleman, Descendent of Catherine Eddleman
Catherine Eddleman in Kentucky
After remarriage she became Catherine Burger of Ky
She became Catherine Burger of Indiana (1811 - ????)
I have been asked to help Dr. Karl Raitz, Dept. of Geography, University of Kentucky, with research from the first explorers to the present for a book about the Wilderness Road and the Limestone Road, which provided access to the 18th- century Trans-Appalachian frontier. Dr. Raitz characterizes the Wilderness Road as "a poor people's road" and the Limestone Road as "the route of the wealthy." If you have information you are willing to share for this project, such as diaries, letters, maps, or oral tradition, please e-mail Dr. Raitz's research assistant, Marianne Brennan <firstname.lastname@example.org>.
I have no monetary connection to this project. I am just attempting to stir the genealogical cauldron to see what we can find. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Nancy Foley Johnson, Lexington, Kentucky
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810 - Biography of Catherine
Eddleman - You are reading this page. Support documents follow:
810A - Pennsylvania Gazette 1783 xxx ss list of Indian Captives related to Detroit British Fort.
810B - Possible Time Line for Catherine's life PA, MD, NC, KY, and IN
810F - Catherine's KY Farm of 1778 - Few facts; this is a research page.
810? - Map of the Ruddlesfort area showing what is known of the Burger and Eddleman farms
810? - Tax records of John and Daniel Eddleman and the Burger family in Kentucky
810C - Deed for sale of Catherine Eddleman Burger farm in Kentucky 1810 Dec xx
8??? - Map (1811) showing location of the farms of John and Catherine and sons in Indiana
810Z - 50K of reference information related to Catherine Eddleman
We do not know Catherine's birth date, birth place, or maiden surname. One finds several written records of David Eddleman (various spellings) and records of David and/or Catherine Eddleman in PA, MD, NC, and KY.
In 1882, Catherine Eddleman was granted 400 acres of land in Kentucky. We do not have proof that this is the same Catherine Eddleman of the paragraph above. We do not have any record of David and Catherine Eddleman as a family in Kentucky. We do have two very clear land records of Catherine Eddleman in Kentucky and records of her sons paying taxes in Kentucky. The first record of Catherine in Kentucky is the above grant of land to her. The second record is her sale of that land in 1810 and that deed lists Catherine, John Eddleman, Daniel Eddleman, and John Burger. That deed does not state the relationship of these persons. The known Kentucky records are consistent with David and Catherine Eddleman planting corn or building a cabin in Kentucky in 1778, David dying sometime, Catherine remarrying to John Burger at some unknown date and place. John Burger and Catherine and their two sets of childern farming 800 acres of land until about 1810-1811 when they sold lands and moved to present day Floyd County, Indiana. While it seems likely Catherine died on her Indiana Farm, her date of death and burial are not known. I have not found any records of Catherine and John Burger in Indiana.
During March 1999, Jim Sellars, US Air Force Sergeant and notable Kentucky historian, found a Pennsylvania Gazette article of 1783 August 13 listing Daniel, David, and Katy Etelmaw as captives in the hands of British or Indians. We believe these are Eddleman, but do not know whether The David is David the father or an unknown child. Likewise, we do not know whether the Katy refers to the mother or an unknown child. At the same time, Jim Sellars also found a Ruddell's fort militia pay record which lists "David Eddleman" spelled that way on the back.
1776 David left NC for new River and prob spent remainder of 76 and 77 in uncertainty due to Indians or disposing of NC lands. Some time in 1977 David and Catherine probably decided to go to Kentuck but seasons and Indian uncertainity probably only allowed them to make preparations.
It was common for Kentucky pioneer men to leave their families in the comparitive safety of NC about March. Heavy snows are still common in Indiana to Tenneessee in late Februrary and those can be the deepest snows of the year. During March and April it seems likely David Eddleman was in Kentucky cutting and clearing land to plant a corn crop in late April or early May. It is likely worked with a group of men perhaps including John Burger so they would have safety in numbers in the event of Indian attack. Some land had trees and other land was in cane (bamboo). We have not yet learned the original vegetation or exact location of the Eddleman land.
Hinckston had built a fort one Licking river in 1775? but had to abandon it because of pressure from Indians. There were no permanent Indian towns in Kentucky, but there were irregular fairly constant efforts by the Indians to force the Long Knives to withdraw from the Kentucky Hunting Grounds. There is a strong likelihood that after the corn was planted in 1778 that David Eddleman or some of his companions returned to NC to bring families to KY or visit, tell the families of the progress, and any Indian news, get supplies and return. We have no actual records of any activities by the Eddleman family prior to the time John Eddleman paid poll taxes in 17XX..
We do not know what the Eddleman family was doing during 1779. Perhaps they were all in Kentucky working on the farmstead and working with neighbors on the reinforcement of Hinkstons rotting fort. We do know the British were gravely concerned that the colonists were pouring west of the applacian mountains in violation of the prohibition against settlements west of the mountains. The was in the colonies was expensive with England hiring soldiers where she cound and sending them to America. It was becoming clear the Colonists were strugglling successful to improve their army about as fast as Britian could build her forces.
Detroit was the British Fort responsible for holding the lands west of the mountains and the Indians were becoming desperate to stop the overflow of their lands. The hordes from the East were becoming worse every Spring. The British officers in Detroit were ordered to save the Ohio Valley for the King and they did everything possible to find allies in the Indians. During late 1779 and early 1980 British officers in Detroit were working hard to lay out a plan for concouring the land from from Detroit to Tennessee (Spanish) with the aid of the Indians. Meanwhile Virgina had sent young general George Rogers Clark to Louisville to Organize the war in western Ky and Southern Illinois and Southern Ohio. Virginia was doing what it could to supply the Kentuckians with lead and powder to ward off expected Indian attacks.
On a morning in 1780 June 24 or 26 after a night of hard rains the creeks were running full and the forests were soaking wet, but the British were coming to Ruddles station and because of the wet woods no Kentuckians were out working in the fields or hunting in the woods. These circumstances must have made movement miserable for the British band of 1200 Indians, Canadien volunteers, and British regular soldiers. But they managed move up the flooding streams with the first cannon seen in the West. Little cannon fires a couple shots and moves a log.
secon cannon comes up and fort surrender.
links to lists of militia.
capture of two forts. Map of route to Detroit.
The attack on ruddles stat
links to Ky lists of capties.
link to the Philadelphia list of captives.
Eddleman family during the war years and post-war years; British did not withdraw and that lead to war of 1812, but Eddlemans had moved to Indiana
Date: 4 Aug 99
Dear Group, = Ruddlesforters
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At our get together in June 1999, I shot the longitudes and latitudes of various points of interest, with my GPS (Global Positioning System). So, we could have some references for future work. If you are interested they are as follows.
The entrance or gate onto the property at Martin Station is 38*14.57 N by 084*17.02 W
The site of the Old Cemetery at Martin's Station is 38*15.05 N by 084*16.08 W
The entrance or gate onto the property at Ruddles Station is 38*20.62 N by 084*16.96 W
The site of the Old Ruddles Fort is 38*20.05 N by 084*16.60 W
The Vault where the remains are buried from Ruddles Station 38*20.16 N by 084* 16.81 W
Bill Morrow LouKY
Indiana was being surveyed. Status of indians 1800 to 1810
decision to sell the Ky farms and move to Indiana.
Jan 1811 purchase of 4 farms in indiana.
Map of Indiana at the time of the purchases.
Catherine Eddleman received land just east of present-day Lexington Kentucky for settling on it in 1778. She had two surviving childern that we know of. They were John Eddleman and Daniel Eddleman and both had large families. Her husband may have been David Eddleman who had a family on Abbots Creek in North Carolina 1776. We do know she remarried to John Burger in Kentucky and that the Eddleman and Burger families moved to Indiana in 1811. /////////////
The fully documented lineage begins with 1778 when she settled on land just east of Lexington KY. We have Ky tax records, deed for sale of the 1778 farm, and her family's purchase of land in Indiana in 1811. We do not know who was her husband when she settled in KY or what happened to him. He may have died or been killed during Indian raids. Further details and possible linkage to David Edelmann of Europe are on the following pages.
My proven family history goes back only to a record in a book which shows that Catherine Eddleman petitioned for 500 acres of land in Kentucky in 1780, claiming she settled on it in 1778. In 1883 she was granted 345.5 acres. I have not seen any of those original records. I do not know whether any of those records might have shown the names of any other members of her family. Since a single mother would not be likely at that time in Kentucky, many have searched for the identity of her husband and we are still looking.
It is puzzling that obscure Catherine Eddleman, never mentioned in early Kentucky records got her land, but Daniel Boone, the Bryans, and others lost title to their lands. A commission met in the area in 1882 to determine land ownship. I have not found the text of the deliberations of the commission, but it seems possible Catherine got her land as a result of the commissions findings. If available, that text would provide information about many early Kentucky Pioneers. Those pioneers lost many members of their families protecting the lands against the British and Indians. I will try to write a summary of those battles and also provide a map of the early forts and settlements.
In eg803.htm, under the year 1771, I set forth my view that Mrs. Phillip Sauer, Anna Catherine Eddleman, and Adam Conrad might be siblings. If true then Catherine's maiden name was Anna Catherine Conrad. Notice that the Child was named David Conrad, perhaps to honor David Eddleman, his godfather. Other sponsorships suggest Catherine's maiden surname might be Sauer or Decker. If any reader can tell me exactly what sponsorship means, please let me know. Knowing what sponsorship meant in those days might may help clarify Catherine'r relationship to these childern of other families. I have not found any sponsorships in Kentucky for any child.
In my family, we had a tradition that our family came from Kentucky, but we thought they were just traveling enroute from North Carolina. We did not know our ancestors lived in Kentucky 33 years. Our family had already lived in Indiana for 75 years when my Dad was born and the word of the life in Kentucky was not passed on to him. Claude Eddleman, my father, may have mentioned "family tore up by Indians in Kentucky" but he was not sure about any of that, or so I concluded. His father fought in the Civil War 3 years in 18 battles and he never fully recovered from those illnesses and shell shock. He kept his army canteen on the wall all his life and as death neared he was calling out preparations for another battle calling for his canteen and other equipment. Thus, Claude Eddleman may not have learned as much family history as he would have if his father had been of clearer mind.
I am going to put our meager family traditions on a Family Traditions page. These traditions were so ill-defined that they are difficult to remember. In April 1958, when Claude Eddleman was 72 and in pretty good health but had been diagnosed with Leukemia, I wrote his recollections word for word. Here is the account my father gave me when he was age 70 and good health and I wrote it down word by word. It was the same account he had always given and has no connection with reality that I can find. He said, "Three brothers came from Schleswig-Holstein (that is a province next to Jutland, Denmark) Germany and settled somewhere in Pennsylvania and then came west. Two settled in Indiana and the other drifted into Kentucky. The brothers were named Adam, Aaron, and John, or more likely James. He thought Aaron was the one that drifted into Kentucky. Of the two that settled in Indiana, one built Eddleman Mill on Big Indian Creek near Byrneville (Northwest of Georgetown). I figure the Mill builder was named James, but it could be John. The other brother went on west and settled in Vincennes area. That would leave Adam as the brother who went west."
I once asked Emment Eddleman and he said, "Three brothers came from Germany. They were named: John, Noah, and James or maybe he said they were named Frances, Adam, and Issac. I have forgotten what he said because he was clearly talking about boys that grew up at Eddleman Mill and Milltown. Emment also disagreed with the family tree of his own section of the family, but I had copied the tree from family bibles which were complete and agreed with all census records and court records. Therefore, I have not included anything from Emmet in the early generations of the family history.
This will be put on a family traditions page. All these proved inaccurate.
NOTES FROM DANIEL EDDLEMAN PAGE
IAM GOINT TO INSERT EDDLEMANS IN THE kENUCKY EVENTS
Daniel Eddleman was born in 1779 according to his first payment of Poll Tax in Kentucky. He always claimed Kentucky as his birthplace. However his replies to census age question place his birth in Kentucky in 1775 which seems unlikely because few women were in Kentucky that year. For example, in the 1850 census he said his age was 75 and that equates to a birth date of 1775. It appears that most of his life he thought he was four years older than his actual age. His mother was granted ____ acres of land for settling on it in 1778. We do not know when Catherine Eddleman, his mother, arrived in Kentucky, but if the Edelmann mentioned in the Records of the Monravians is his father, then his dad had been in the mountain valleys of the New and Holston Rivers during 1776. That note implies that Edelmann took this family from Abbots Creek (Lexington), North Carolina during August 1776 to the Holston River area. Three years earlier, 1773, Daniel Boone set out with five families for Kentucky, but Indians killed James Boone and the families returned to Clinch River to spent the winter. It is possible that Edelmann family spent 18 months or so looking for land in the mountain rivers area (New, Holston, and Clinch) and then arrived in the area of Martin's and Ruddle's Stations during 1778 or before. Corn needed to be planted from mid-april to mid-June, based on modern practice, and the early Kentucky settlers often arrived in mid-March to begin clearing the ground for corn planting.
We have no written mention of Catherine Eddleman or her husband in early Kentucky, however Louise Eddleman noticed a David Ederman on the militia list of _______ station suggested in 1977 that he might be my ancestor. Only only needs change the r to l to get the German spelling. That list
According to Decatur county history, he was carried away from his family in Kentucky 17-- and lived among the Indians at Lafayette, Indiana until age -- when he was reunited with his mother in Kentucky. He paid taxes every year at his county courthouse in KY.
jan 1811 bought land in Indiana.
When the Catherine Eddleman farm was sold in preparation to moving to Indiana, the deed was signed by the following grantors: Catherine Burger, John Eddleman, Daniel Eddleman, and John Burger, Sr. That was the first that I learned of her remarriage. I have misplaced this deed for 15 years, but I believe there were no other grantors.
Recall John Burger, Sr was a veteran of the Rev War. I have not looked for his war records. He is sometimes spelled Burgher. I see Burgers in North Carolina and suspect John Burger knew the Eddleman family before Catherine's husband died. I suspect Burger's wife died and then Catherine and John married and combined their farming operations. These are problems the reader is encourged to study. If you send your results I will insert them here. Louise Eddleman figures Catherine married Burger between 1783 and 1790. John Burgher and John Eddleman first paid taxes same day in 1987, but that does not prove the marriage date because 1) that was probably the first year John was 21 and 2) they may have just gone to town as neighbors, not family.
When a man became 21 in Kentucky (and Indiana) he had to pay a Poll Tax of $1 per year if he wanted to vote. If you failed to pay your property taxes, the County took your property. The County did not take your head if failed to pay tax on it. I have heard many old timers brag that they had always paid their Poll Tax; it was a matter of pride and good citizenship. Thus, the year a man first paid Poll Tax should be his 21st year of age, unless it was delayed one year as property taxes are. John Burger, John Eddleman, Daniel Eddleman, and later Michael Burger always paid their taxes the same day.
Paying County Taxes in Fayette County
I have no Fayette County tax records. I do not know if I checked for such taxes at the State Museum. I have not been to Fayette County Courthouse. I have heard Fayette county records are complete from the founding of the county. 1786 would be the last year Catharine owed taxes in Fayette County. We need to check for those records.
Paying County Taxes in Bourbon County
Bourbon County was split off Fayette County in 1786. 1787 is the first year of Bourbon County records. I carefully checked for 1786 tax records of Bourbon County and found none.
I have not found any tax records for Catherine Eddleman or Catherine Burger. I found tax records for John Burger his sons and John and Daniel Eddleman amd they are on page 811t.htm. I belileve there was records for John Burger. going back to 1892 in Bourbon County, but I did not copy them nor did I look in any other county for Burger or Eddleman taxes.
The Birth Dates of John and Daniel can be computed from the dates they first paid poll tax. Daniel did not pay poll tax in 1799, but did pay in 1800. Since this tax was paid at age 21, we subtract 21 from 1800 and find his birth year was 1779 which fits perfectly with Catherine's claim that she settled on her Kentucky land in 1778 and Daniel's claim on all census records that he was born in Kentucky. John first paid poll tax in 1797 which places his birth year as 1776, unless he was late paying his poll tax. From census records I had calculated John's birth year as 1770-75 and felt 1774 was the best fit. It seems there is a possibility that John Eddleman might be older than 21 when he paid poll tax in 1797. All census records reflect John Eddleman was born in North Carolina and Daniel was born in Kentucky. In the census of 1850, Daniel reported he was 75 years old and was born in Kentucky. It is unlikely Catherine was in Kentuck in 1775. Other folks have found from other data that Daniel claimed to be a few years older than his actual age. If John was born in 1776 and Daniel in 1779, there might have been a child between them.
Petitions of the Early Inhabitants of Kentucky by Robertson
page 120 item 56. These petitions are to the state legislature.
they wanted a public tobacoo warehouse on South Fork of Licking at Confluence of Stoner and Hinkson Forks in fork near Isaac Ruddles Mill Endorsed 1788 Oct 25 Bourbon County granted Henings Statutes 12, 677
Petition #33 1786 Oct 26 by John Burger and Henry. They objected to division of the County of Bourbon (done in May '86) into 3 counties because there are only 400 militia. Let it go until Statehood.
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Try to enlarge and scan the 1774,1783 map showing Kentucky stations
They all signed the deed when the farm was sold in prep to moving to Indiana.
Ruddles station massacure and other conflicts with Indians
David ederman in militia
John Burger purchased land patent jan 30, 1811 in prest ay Floyd county Indiana. As time of purchase he lived in Burbon County KY.
From cclerk burgon county Michael Burger married Honer Ellis Oct 25, 1798. no ages, parents or witnesses named. I got this from a letter from Barbara Saum, box 450, Elm Creek, Nebraska 68836 dated 6-10-78 no deeds for michael in 1793 Deed book B page 348. Notice that Honor burgher is listed in Floyd county land ownership map; guess michael died. I should start a page on Burger Michael, John Jr. for any Eddleman data that might yield.
Deed 1806 april 25 boubon county ky, John Burger and wife catherine to Michael Conger or couger 40 acres on waters of Coopers Run for 60 pounds. Not Caterhind Hufford but Catherine Edelman my note say see George foote.
Catherine Eddleman. Thirty years as head of a Kentucky pioneer farm family and then 30 years as an early resident of Indiana
Daniel Eddleman, son of Catherine, childhood among Indians at Lafayette, Indiana, and farmer in southeastern Indiana. But he preferred hunting to farming.
John Eddleman, son of John and a batchelor cabinet maker, his bible is extant.
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I assembled these historical facts twenty years ago as the possible biography of one person. But I still lack any proof that all these incidents apply to one person and that he was husband (#439) of Catherine Eddleman #440. I grouped the facts thusly to evaluate whether one person could have fit the dates. It appears one person could have fit all the dates and places.
Age -- Date ---------------- Event.......(age means age of the David Eddleman; born Lancaster)
00 --- 1736 Dec 1 -- a David Eddleman was born
in Lancaster PA; father = Jacob Eddleman. (1a)
01 --- 1737 May 15 -- above David baptised at Reformed Church, Lancaster PA. (1) (see ship)
21 --- 1757 Apr 27 -- Anna Catherina Sauer born, first child of Philip Sauer. Godparents: John Michael Young and wife Anna Eva Young. See my short biography of Philip Sauer below. Perhaps his child was named after Anna Catherina (?Conrad or Sauer?) Eddleman but A.C.X. is not living in the community or is still single and unable to care for a possible orphan. (2)
23 --- 1760 October 7 - Daniel Edlemann and Maria Bornin were sponsors at the birth of Daniel Laurier. Perhaps this Daniel was a brother, or relative of David Eddleman. (3)
25 --- 1761 Mar 24 -- George Henry Eddleman born York County PA. Parents David Eddleman and wife Katherine baptised 1761 Mar 24. Sponsor Henry Conrad.(3)
26 --- 1762 Anna Maria Edelman born in Manchester, MD. Parents David and Katherine Edleman. Sponsors: Fredrich Decker and Anna Maria Decker. See William Eddleman Notes below. (3)
29 --- 1765 Feb 4 -- David Sauer born, 6th child of Phillip Sauer. Sponsors: David Edelmann and his wife Anna Catharine. (2)
34 --- 1770 David Eddleman recorded cattle mark. Court minutes; see eg803.htm.
35 --- 1771 Apr 6 - David Conrad born, 7th child of Adam Conrad; Sponors: David Ettelman and wife Anna Catharina. (2)
37 --- 1773-74 John Eddleman #437 (Indian Creek Miller) born in NC to Catherine Eddleman #440. I have estimated this birthdate from census data.
40 --- 1775 error Daniel Eddleman Born in Kentucky. In the 1850 Census Daniel said he was 75 and born in Kentucky. Sharon Renner suggests Daniel was not sure of his birth date.
42 -- 1776 may be the birth date for John Eddleman, son of Catherine, suggested by fact John first paid Poll tax 1797 Jul 4 in Bourbon County Kentucky and census records reflect North Carolina as the birth state of John Eddleman. Poll tax was paid at age 21 as I understand it.
42 --- 1776 Jul 31 - An Edelmann took family from Abbot Creek NC to Holston River. Salem Diary: entry for date of 1776 Jul 31. (Records of Monravians in NC, Vol 3, Bethania Diary. That Diary did not give the first name of the Edelmann.
42 --- 1778 David Eddleman taxes delinquent in NC. Court minutes see eg803.htm.
42 --- 1778 Catherine Eddleman claimed to have settled on land in KY
43 --- 1779-80 David Ederman in Capt Isaac Ruddles Co near Cynthia KY(x). I have not seen this list. I do not know where to look for it. Louise Eddleman gave me this info
Discussion of the above data:
1) Sponsors were usually relatives--perhaps Mrs. Phillip Sauer, Adam Conrad, and Anna Catharina Eddleman are siblings. Likewise Henry Conrad might be a sibling of these three. Looking for more data on Adam Conrad, Henry Conrad, Mrs. Phillip Sauer, and Anna Catharina (?Conrad?) might help identify David Eddleman.
2) Can someone check sources in Lancaster, PA for Jacob Eddleman, David Edelmann, Henry Conrad, Adam Conrad, Phillip Sauer, Anna Catharina (?Conrad)
3) Daniel Eddleman always claimed to be born in Kentucky. If true,
(1) 1978 Oct 12, William R. Eddleman, attorney, Dallas, Texas, wrote
me of records of the Reformed Church of Lancaster, York County, Pennsylvania,
by Reverend Jacob Lischy, which
(1a) John David Eddleman, son of Jacob Eddleman, born December 1, 1736 and baptised May 15, 1737.
(1b) Eliss Eddleman, son of David Eddleman, born 1743 Jul 3, baptised 1744 Mar 4.
(1c) George Henry Eddleman, son of David Eddleman and Katherine Eddleman baptised 1761 Mar 24.
(2) Records of Pilgrim Church, Lexington N.C. On microfilm at North Carolina Dept of Archives and History Raliegh NC. The Abbot's Creek settlement.
Three Notes from William R. Eddleman, Attorney,
Dallas, TX in a letter to Harold Eddleman, dated 1978 Oct 12. "I found
some records of the Reformed and Lutheran Congregations at Manchester,
Baltimore County, Md, which was called the German Church.
3a) 1760 Oct 7, Daniel Edlemann and Maria Bornin were sponsors at birth of Daniel Laurier.
3b) Anna Maria Edelman, dau of David and Katerine Edleman, was born in 1762, Sponors: Frederick Decker and Anna Maria. WR Eddleman suggested this K. Edleman could be the K. Eddleman of Bourbon, Ky.
3c) In a list of persons contributing to a school on 1762 Sep 17: David Edleman contributed 15 shillings and Maria Margarita Edleman contributed 10 shillings."
(2) Philip Sauer (1735-1784) Source probably Heritage Book for Rowan County. From Palatinate, Germany, 1749 PA, 1753 NC; donated land for Beulah Church, also called Sauer Church. Probably tarried 5 or 6 years in Philadelphia. In Rowan County, NC, 1754-56. He married Christianna Foust, daughter of a neighboring German about 1755-56. His first born and first record in the Pilgrim Reformed Church was Anna Catherine Sauer, born 1757 Apr 27. Godparents (taufzaugen) were John Michael Young and his wife Anna Eva Young. Philip owned land adjacent and north of the Church lands, deed dated 1763. Part is now covered by the Lexington City Lake.
(ship) Ship List - Pennsylvania German Pioneers
Ship: Brigantine Richard and Elizabeth; Rotterdam ==> Plymouth ==> Philadephia
Captain: Christopher Clymer. Arrival: 1733 Sep 28
Edelmann on board: David Edelmann Age 49, Margaretha Edelmann age 26
Anna Maria Edelman age 54, Baltasar Edlemann age 4, Philip Jacob Edelmann age 25
I am not suggesting this ship list has anything to do with the Eddlemans given on this page; I just noticed some names are in common and it landed before the above incidents.
I notice the ship Albany arriving 1749 sep 2 had some people from Erbach which might be Odenwald and it had 3 Edelmann. If these people are David's family, the lineage might be:
David and Anna Maria Edelman ==> Philip Jacob Edelmann (wife Margaretha) ==> David b. 1736
Study resources for the following names which have been associated in the trial biography. When I had access to the above records, I did not know about these names: Philip Sauer
Study resources at Lancaster, PA and other places to learn wether Jacob Eddleman's son David Eddleman could be the same David Eddleman who resided in North Carolina.
Study resources for the Holston River area for evidence of the David Eddleman who took his family from Abbots Creek to Holston River.
Try to learn birth date of Catherine Eddleman Kentucky and evaluate that date with the trial biography.
Does anyone know anything about the militia list of 1778 reputed to contain the n ame of David Ederman, which may mean David Eddleman? I have no information. I have examined many stories of early Kentucky but I found no David Eddleman.
The trial biography may contain bits from the lives of more than one David Eddleman.
THE INFORMATION BELOW IS BEING DEPLETED TO THE CORRECT LOCATION ABOVE OR WILL BE USED ON OTHER PAGES..
Catherine Eddleman received a land grant in 178x for having settled on it in 1778. Since a single mother would not be likely at that time in Kentucky, many have searched for the name of her husband withour success. In June 1997, I received an email from Marilyn Light (Utah) that she had been told the marriage bonds for Catherine and David Eddleman exist. I will add those detains to this page if we can get that document or details. If David was Catherine's husband, then I assume both settled on that land in 1778. I believe settled means grew corn. One notices in reading about early Kentucky familes that much emphasis is given to whether they grew corn. Notice that the records of the Monravia Church show that "an Edelman", David, perhaps scouted some miles westward before coming back to get his family at Abbots Creek.
The story of Catherine Eddleman, will give a few more details of her life in Kentucky when I get bck to adding the tax records of John Burger, John Eddleman, Daniel Eddleman, and Michael Burger.
Tax records john eddleman, daniel Eddleman, and John Burgher paid taxes every year 123 in KY.
They all signed the deed when the farm was sold in prep to moving to Indiana. But I have misplaced that copy many years ago.
Ruddles station massacre and other Kentucky battles.
David ederman in milita, I have not found this list.
John Burger purchased land patent jan 30, 1811 in prest ay Floyd county Indiana. As time of purchase he lived in Burbon County KY.
From clerk Bourbon County, Michael Burger married Honer Ellis Oct 25, 1798. no ages, parents or witnesses named. I got this from a letter from Barbara Saum, box 450, Elm Creek, Nebraska 68836 dated 6-10-78 no deeds for michael in 1793 Deed book B page 348. Notice that Honor Burgher is a landowner in Floyd County, Indiana. I guess Michael died at an early age.
Deed 1806 april 25 Bourbon County Ky, John Burger and wife catherine to Michael Conger or couger 40 acres on waters of Coopers Run for 60 pounds. Not Catherine Hufford but Catherine Edelman. My note says see George Foote.
Catherine Eddleman. Thirty years as head of a Kentucky pioneer farm family and then 30 years as an early resident of Indiana
Daniel Eddleman, son of Catherine, childhood among Indians at Lafayette, Indiana, and farmer in southeastern Indiana. But he preferred hunting to farming. He must have been very young, perhaps, one or two years old.
Immigrant's surname: LALE Immigrant's given name(s): Hans Georg Ship name: Samuel U.S. arrival date: 30 Aug 1737 Port: Philadelphia, PA Place of origin: Wuerttemburg, Germany Source: Rotterdam but last from Cowes Notes: Hans lived in York Co. PA then to NC. Descendants moved to KY. My direct line descended from George LAIL, captured by Indians at age 9, taken to Cape Girardeau Co. MO area. Grew up with Shawnee Indians. Raised his family there. Name has been spelled, LAIL, LALE, LAGLE, LAYLE, LöEHL, LAEGLE, and others. My direct line spells the name LAIL. Hans's son, Georg Jr. lived next door to Squire Boone, Daniel's father, in Carolina and moved near him in KY. Many of the family were killed when the British and Indians captured Ruddle's Station near Cynthiana, KY. That was when George, my ggg-grandfather was captured. It is generally accepted that George was the first white man in southeastern Missouri.
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PeggyjW@aol.com wrote: 5 May 1998: There are four people at Ruddles that are my husband's line! ERDMAN which is Eddleman, John Burger and daughter which Christian Spears married after his wife drowned, and Catherine. We think Catherine is Erdman (EDDLEMANS) wife, but need more info on it. Christian Spears and Anna had a daughter who had a daughter who married a WARTH! So, I am seeking as much info on Ruddles Station as I can find. Peggy Warth
7 Jun 98 From: PeggyjW@aol.com
Hi Harold, You are right- there is not any proof ERDMAN was EDDLEMAN. That is why I wanted to see the original Docs in Bourbon Co, but did not have a reference point. I did not want to go through all the files due to age, but I will when I go to Bourbon Co. in the next couple of weeks.
A person I know who is related to the Conway family has researched Ruddles and said it was Eddleman. I will call her and ask her where she got the info.
I have a copy of the deed that mentions John Burgher and his wife Catherine, and John and Daniel Eddlemon. All of them had to sign the deed in order to sell it. It is witnessed by Michael Burger, Charles Smith, Jr and George Parmer. Date is Dec 24, 1810.
In a deed previous to the one above, John Burger sold Cowing (Chowing) land but neither Catherine, nor John or Daniel are mentioned. Therefore, the one mentioning all of them MAY be land willed to Catherine and her sons, and again it may not!
I will see about getting info about the original grantees of the land. That is either in Harrison or Bourbon Co.
7 Jun 98, From: PeggyjW@aol.com To: Indbio
Hi, I am going to get a clear copy of the topo map! I tried to scan and it was a little dark!
The Kenton Co Library has topo maps of KY- I found about 200 of them!
I will get that to you tomorrow evening! Harold Eddleman did not hear anymore about maps.
10 Jun 98, From: PeggyjW@aol.com
Hi, I was going through some old papers and found in Collins Historical Sketches of KY, History of Kentucky p 13, regarding Captain Ruddle's Company (1779-80) there is listed a David EDERMAN. That is different than the ERDMAN I had seen previously. More feasible for a L to look like a R! Especially the way they wrote!
There was a John Burger, Sr, and Jr. Also listed were others.
I wrote to the NARA and need to send more info to Chicago branch before they can help me any! Seemed as if they would be helpful!
ubject: Re: Ruddle Fort Page Date: 7 Jun 98 21:32:36 -0500 From: email@example.com To: Indbio
Like you, my initial interest in Ruddle's Fort was to find out more about ancestors. I had three ancestors there: John Hinkson, Thomas Ravenscraft, and William McCune. I must admit, however, that I am fascinated by that turbulent period of history. I would love to find the many descendants of those ancestors and hear their stories. Tell ya' what: I'll go ahead and add a Ruddle's Fort page to my site with the idea of bringing these folks together. Much like the "Seller's Letters," I will post whatever raw material folks would like to offer; as well as continue to post critical research on the subject. I am even considering beginning a "Ruddle's and Martin's Forts" genealogy discussion group through the sponsorship of Rootsweb.
Give me a week or so to come up with a nice format and I'll begin to put the word out that the web page is being set up.
Shriner: Daniel Brown, the sixth child of Thomas Brown and his wife Mary Osborn Ball, was born September 9, 1766, in Hardy County, Virginia. Daniel was killed by Indians near Paris, Kentucky, in 1787, at the age of twenty-one. He was not married. Editor: So there was still risk of Indian attack near Catherines farm 9 after she settled there.
I am beginning to post the Bourbon County, Kentucky, Court Orders from Julia Ardery's "Kentucky Records" at my web site. These court orders have some very interesting information about some of our Ruddle's and Martin's forts captives; i.e., depositions of the original settlers and those taken captive at the forts, land disputes, deeds, guardianship of orphans, etc. You can find the web page at:
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Indian Captives in Indiana (EFlexman@imcpl.lib.in.us, 03/04/99 11:23) To: Indbio
Dear Dr. Eddleman:
Thank you for your request for information about records of Indian captives in Indiana during the time period 1775-1812.
Unfortnuately, we were unable to locate any information about the Ruddles/Martins Forts, or about a child reared by Indians near present-day Lafayette after 1780.
For further research, you may wish to contact the following agencies:
Indiana State Library 140 N. Senate Ave. Indianapolis, In 46204 http://www.statelib.lib.in.us
Indiana Historical Society 315 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, In 46204 http://www2.indianahistory.org
Tippecanoe County Historical Association 1001 South Street Lafayette, IN 47901 http://www.tcha.mus.in.us/
Thank you for your interest in the library.
Sincerely, Ellen Flexman Social Sciences Service Section Indianapolis-Marion County Public Library
[EDDLEMAN-L] Conrad/Cleaver/Eddleman: 1850-1950 > (EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com, 07/24/99 19:33) To: Indbio
I am searching for Conrad-Eddleman and Cleaver-Eddleman connections. It is possible that they migrated in similar paths from Pennsylvania to Indiana and, possibly, Arkansas. Althought the three surnames (Conrad, Cleaver, Eddleman) are present in my maternal line, they were all married at different periods so I am not sure there is a definite connection to previous time periods.
I would very much appreciate hearing from anyone with either Conrad or Cleaver in their Eddleman lines.
Thank you, Jo-Ann Stephens Bahai@netusa1.net
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