Son of Hanss David Edelmann of Rott, Alsace
Filb (Phillip) Jakob Edelmann arrived on the Richard and Elizabeth at Philadelphia 1733 Sep 28 with his parents, wife, son, sister, and her Bausser-in-laws. See David of Alsace page for the few details we know of their life in Europe. Also see Passengers on the Richard and Elizabeth for information about their voyage to America. There is also a workshop devoted to research on David.
Phillip signed his name as Filb on the papers at Baltimore. Later we find him at Lancaster PA and later in Maryland. He probably died in Maryland (perhaps about 1763, age 55) and we should look in Maryland for settlement of his estate. We do not know whether there was an estate settlement for he sold much property in Maryland or transferred it to Daniel and David about 1760 to 1763. Caution: It is not yet proven that everything on this page relates to this Philip Edelmann. This is an early draft with incomplete paragraphs. I am waiting for the missing data. ?????? = needs checked for accuracy.
I believe these Germans use Edelmann as their name at home in their German communities and in German Church records, but that public records used many mispellings. While Germans were often (usually?) well educated in Bible and German, they seemed illiterate to the Englishmen and I feel Philip was experimenting with finding a surname that English speakers could pronounce and accept. While his dad signed his "X", Filb signed his name as Filb on the papers for the English King. By 1750 Philip seems to have become adept at trading land and as such a business man he must have made a special effort to achieve a "good name" that was easily pronounced by his countrymen.
Around Lancaster, PA, in the 1730's we find Edelmann and Edelman; many families used Edelman in PA.
He probably moved to Maryland about 1750 and used several names there: Idleman, , but seems to drift toward Edleman and Adleman ?????.
Daniel, who seems to be his son, was using Addleman in VA and later in southwestern PA
The records reported on this page were recorded mainly as Edelman, Edleman, and Adleman.
On this page, I am listing the data I may relate to Philip Jakob Eddleman. I have found such trial biographies useful for weeding out impossible information and for suggesting new directions for research. I try to use the surname spelling used in the source of each item.
Age -- Date ---------------- Event.......(age refers to Philip Jakob Eddleman of Europe)
-1.......1707 calculated birthdate of Margaret born in Europe; age 26 on shiplist of 1733. This Margaretha is likely to be the wife of Philip Jacob Edelmann.
00......1708 calculated birthdate for Philip Jacob Edelmann born in Europe; age 25 on shiplist.
?? --- 17?? married xxxx in Europe, most likely in Alsace.
?? --- 17?? Calculated son Baltarzar was born in Europe. This child was sick at arrival in Philadelphia and we find no record of him in America.
25......1733 Sep 28 Phillip on shiplist of Richard and Elizabeth; landed Philadelphia
28 --- 1736 Dec 1 -- a David Eddleman was born in Lancaster PA; father = Jacob Eddleman. (1a). This infant David may be the son of Filb and the David Eddleman who appears in records of North Carolina beginning in 1765.
29 --- 1737 May 15 -- above David baptised at Reformed Church, Lancaster PA. (1) (see ship)
33 -- Catrina, daughter of Phillip Edelman, born Nov. 15, 1741, bapt. December (18 or 16), 1741. Sponsors were Bernhardt Houx and wife.
35 -- Elias, son of Jacob Edelman, born July 3, 1743, baptized Mar. 4, 1744; sponsors Stoffel Schlegal, wife Anna Mar.
41 -- 1749 Sep 6, William and Rachel Murphy, planter, of Baltimore Co., Maryland deeded 50 acres on Georges Run to Philip Edleman, of Lancaster Co., L50, 50 acres. Could this be the date that Philip Edelmann moved to Maryland?
49 --- 1757 Apr 27 -- NC -- Anna Catherina Sauer born, first child of Philip Sauer. Godparents: John Michael Young and wife Anna Eva Young. See my short biography of Philip Sauer below. Perhaps his child was named after Anna Catherina (?Conrad or Sauer?) Eddleman but she is not living in the community. (2) [set up links and targets for these footnotes]
52 --- 1760 October 7 - Daniel Edlemann and Maria Bornin were sponsors at the birth of Daniel Laurier. Perhaps this Daniel was a brother, or relative of David Eddleman. (3) Perhaps this Daniel Edelmann married this Maria Born. Perhaps Mrs. Laurier was BORN as maiden surname. If Daniel and Maria did marry about 1760, this may be the reason Philip of Maryland gave them land in Baltimore City. 1960 Baltimore County Maryland was the first record Robert Paul Addleman found of Daniel "Addleman" for his book. However, wife of Daniel Addleman was Elizabeth.
53--- 1761 Mar 24 -- George Henry Eddleman (Gorg Heinrich Edelman) born York County PA. Parents David Eddleman (Edelman) and wife Katherine; baby baptised 1761 Mar 24. Sponsors: Henry Conrad Gorg Heinrich Conrad and Elizabeth. Text inside ( ) was from William H. Eddleman via joeeddleman@infoave.net(4)(3)
53 -- 1761 Philip Adleman deeded lands in Baltimore City to Daniel and David Adleman; his sons perhaps.
Perhaps Filb Jakob Edelmann of Rott died about 1762 in Maryland because Daniel moved to Loudoun County VA and David and Catherine moved to Abbotts Creek NC about 1763 or 1764. However, I will continue listing his age with events as his wife was one year older than Philip and using the age you can estimate her working relationship with her family.
54 --- 1762 Anna Maria Edelman born in Manchester, MD. Parents David and Katherine Edleman. Sponsors: Fredrich Decker and Anna Maria Decker. See William Eddleman Notes below. (3)
57--- 1765 Feb 4 -- David Sauer born, 6th child of Phillip Sauer. Sponsors: David Edelmann and his wife Anna Catharine. (2) [Pilgrim church Lexington NC
62 --- 1770 David Eddleman recorded cattle earmark in Rowan County NC. Court minutes; see eg803.htm#earmark.
63 --- 1771 Apr 6 - David Conrad born, 7th child of Adam Conrad; Sponors: David Ettelman and wife Anna Catharina. (2)
The lines A, B, C, will prob be removed from this page see them on page
809
Discussion of the above data:
A) If sponsors were usually relatives--perhaps Mrs. Phillip Sauer, Adam
Conrad, and Anna Catharina Eddleman are siblings. Likewise Henry Conrad
might be a sibling of these three. Finding for more data on Adam Conrad,
Henry Conrad, Mrs. Phillip Sauer, and Anna Catharina _____ (?Conrad?) might
help identify David Eddleman.
B) Can someone check sources in Lancaster, PA for Jacob Eddleman, David Edelmann, Henry Conrad, Adam Conrad, Phillip Sauer, Anna Catharina (?Conrad)
Jim Groce wrote this 98 Feb 14:
Other EDL information or random notes in the Eddelman Family Collection:
St. Matthews Lutheran Church, Hanover, York County, PA:
"Catrina, daughter of Phillip Edelman, born
Nov. 15, 1741, bapt. December (18 or 16), 1741. Sponsors were Bernhardt
Houx and wife;
Elias, son of Jacob Edelman, born July 3, 1743, baptized
Mar. 4, 1744; sponsors Stoffel Schlegal, wife Anna Mar."
Records of Rev. Jacob Lischy, York County, Reformed:
"George Henry, son of David Edelman and wife Catherine, baptized Mar 24, 1761. Sponsors Henry Conrad and wife Elizabeth". ( a note states David Edelman was the son of Jacob, mentioned in the St. Matthew's Lutheran Church record).
Abbots Creek Settlement: "Abbots Creek Settlement Reformed Church, Davidson County, North Carolina - Baptisms of children of Philip Sauer. His sixth child David, born Feb 4, 1765. Sponsors David Edelman and wife Anna Catharine. Baptisms of children of Adam Conrad. His seventh child David, born Apr 6, 1771. Sponsors David Edelman and wife Anna Catherina".
Happy Valentine's Day, EDL Cousins. Jim Groce.
(1) 1978 Oct 12, William R. Eddleman, attorney, Dallas, Texas, wrote
me of records of the Reformed Church of Lancaster, York County, Pennsylvania,
by Reverend Jacob Lischy, which
state:
(1a) John David Eddleman, son of Jacob Eddleman, born December 1, 1736
and baptised May 15, 1737.
(1b) Eliss Eddleman, son of David Eddleman, born 1743 Jul 3, baptised 1744
Mar 4.
(1c) George Henry Eddleman, son of David Eddleman and Katherine Eddleman
baptised 1761 Mar 24. -------Notice, may indicate Jokob E. family lived
24 years in this church area. This suggests we need
to make exhaustive study of church and civil records in Old York County,
PA ------
(2) Records of Pilgrim Church, Lexington N.C. On microfilm at North Carolina Dept of Archives and History Raliegh NC. The Abbot's Creek settlement.
Three Notes from William R. Eddleman, Attorney,
Dallas, TX in a letter to Harold Eddleman, dated 1978 Oct 12. "I found
some records of the Reformed and Lutheran Congregations at Manchester,
Baltimore County, Md, which was called the German Church.
3a) 1760 Oct 7, Daniel Edlemann and Maria Bornin were sponsors at birth
of Daniel Laurier.
3b) Anna Maria Edelman, dau of David and Katerine Edleman, was born in
1762, Sponors: Frederick Decker and Anna Maria. WR Eddleman suggested this
K. Edleman could be the K. Eddleman of Bourbon County, Ky.
3c) In a list of persons contributing to a school on 1762 Sep 17: David
Edleman contributed 15 shillings and Maria Margarita Edleman contributed
10 shillings."
4) Received from Joeeddleman@infoave.net on 97 AUG 26-------------------------- see below
(2) Philip Sauer (1735-1784) Source probably Heritage Book for Rowan County. From Palatinate, Germany, 1749 PA, 1753 NC; donated land for Beulah Church, also called Sauer Church. Probably tarried 5 or 6 years in Philadelphia. In Rowan County, NC, 1754-56. He married Christianna Foust, daughter of a neighboring German about 1755-56. His first born and first record in the Pilgrim Reformed Church was Anna Catherine Sauer, born 1757 Apr 27. Godparents (taufzaugen) were John Michael Young and his wife Anna Eva Young. Philip owned land adjacent and north of the Church lands, deed dated 1763. Part is now covered by the Lexington City Lake.
(ship) Ship List - Pennsylvania German Pioneers
Vol 1.
Ship: Brigantine Richard and Elizabeth; Rotterdam ==> Plymouth ==>
Philadephia
Captain: Christopher Clymer. Arrival: 1733 Sep 28
Edelmann on board: David Edelmann Age 49, Margaretha Edelmann age 26
Anna Maria Edelman age 54, Baltasar Edlemann age 4, Philip Jacob Edelmann
age 25
I am not suggesting this ship list has anything to do with the Eddlemans
given on this page; I just noticed some names are in common and it landed
before the above incidents.
I notice the ship Albany arriving 1749 sep 2 had some people from Erbach
which might be Odenwald and it had 3 Edelmann. If these people are David's
family, the lineage might be:
David and Anna Maria Edelman ==> Philip Jacob Edelmann (wife Margaretha)
==> David b. 1736
1. List of incidents which are consistent with them being husband and wife.
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Subject: Philip Edleman Date: 27 Sep 97
EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com
Bill Eddleman wrote:
I came across this reference in a book
Baltimore County, Maryland Deed Records, Vol. Two, 1727-1757 by John Davis
pub. by Heritage Books. p. 289:
6 Sep. 1749, William and Rachel Murphy, planter,
of Baltimore Co., Maryland to Philip Edleman, of Lancaster Co., Maryland
L50, 50 acres... Georges Run.
Signed William Murphy, William Winchester, Lydia Winchester.
All the stuff from eg907 to be depletee for above Philoip page
Subject: David and Philip Edelman Date: 22 Sep 97
From: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com (Bill Eddleman)
Dear group,
A couple of tidbits in relation to Harold's request for information. This family is discussed in a book that is relatively recent, "Eighteenth Century Emigrants from the Alsace" by Annette Burkert. I will get the complete reference and material contained therein and post it to the group tomorrow.
Recently, I posted a query to one of the lists I take requesting more information on David and his son Filb (Phillip) Jacob. I got several more pieces of information that suggest even more that this family moved across the Maryland border around 1750. I would like to have the time to follow up on some of these clues (deeds, etc.) before I post them.
Another source I have on this family is Robert Addleman's book on the Addleman family. All the Addlemans in the U.S. apparently descend from Hans Michael Addleman or Daniel Addleman. It appears Daniel originally spelled his name Edelman and some evidence suggests he may be from the Phillip line (possibly a son). This family (Daniel) later moved to Virginia.
Harold, after my Uncle Riley passed away, I ended up with another copy of the Addleman book. I have thought I might give it to a library, but it might be more useful to send it to you. Do you want it? Robert details all the ship's passenger list arrivals (although not the complete lists) for Edelmans and tries to follow up on their locations, and also includes some Pa. records.
More later.
----Bill
Dear Harold, The WHE papers do have some information on Maryland research. What are you looking for? A quick review shows a mention of a number of Edelmans ie Johann, Daniel, David, Catharina, Elisabeth and others. For instance, records for the Reformed and Lutheran Congregation at Manchester, Baltimore County, Md. (now Carroll County) lists a Anna Maria Edelman daughter of David and Catharina Edelman, baptised about 3/7/1762, sponsors Friederich Decker and Anna Maria.The records of the Lutheran Church, Frederick County, Md. lists a baptism of Elisabeth Edelman daughter of Daniel Edelmann and wife Elizabeth born 17 Nov. 1771, sponsors Jacob Schaffer and Maria Deckerin. This -in ending means young female; her name is Maria Decker. There are also mention of Revolutionary War records of Maryland, Archives of Maryland which mention a Michael Edelman. In the Baptism records of Zion Reformed Church, Hagerstown Md. reference is made to Adam Edelman and wife Eva being sponsers for Joseph, son of Peter Binckel and Elizabeth.There is mention of Phillip Edelman in 1758 in Carroll County and Phillip Adleman in the same time frame. Recall Bill Eddleman said a son of the Steinselz family may have adopted the "Adlemann" spelling. Harold Eddleman wonders if he may have adopted this spelling to avoid confusion with Philip Edelmann of Rott. People did that in those days. I will be glad to copy the material and send it to you. Please give me your mailing address as I may have misplaced it.
Joe Eddleman
Subject: David & Catherine Eddleman Date: 23 Sep 97 16:47:08 -0500 From: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com To: Indbio
Dear cousins,
Just had a thought. Several of my ancestors left Pa. to emigrate to N. Car. in the 18th century. Oftentimes, their departure corresponded to the death of a parent of one spouse. Perhaps we should look in Baltimore Co., Md. for estate records of Philip Eddleman sometime between 1762, when a David & Catherine had a daughter baptised in Md., and 1765, when a David & Catherine appear as sponsors for a baptism in N. Car.
----Bill Eddleman
Subject: David & Filb Jacob Edelman Date: 23 Sep 97 15:19:52 -0500 From: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com To: Indbio
Dear cousins,
Yesterday I threatened to post some records on David Edelman of Zweibrucken, so here goes. The following is partly from "Eighteenth Century Emigrants from the Northern Alsace to America" by Annette Kunselman Burgert (1992, Picton Press, Camden, Maine). This book has 2 of my other emigrant ancestors (Eaker and Mani/Mauney) and also follows several of the other passengers on the Richard and Elizabeth, 1733. (Harold, none of these seem to connect to these Edelmans except the Bauser family, which we already knew about.) There is also a short regional history of the northern Alsace. I have supplemented with information I picked up from other sources, including a recent posting to ROOTS-L requesting information on this family in Maryland. By the way, my confidence that the Lancaster/York Co. Edelman group is the same as those from Baltimore Co., Md. increased when I noticed Jacob Shilling and Frederick Decker mentioned in connnection with both groups. If anyone wants this as an attached file, I can accomodate.
The family arrived on the ship Richard & Elizabeth, 1733. On board were David Edelman (signed with + mark), age 49; Filb (Phillip) Jacob Edelmann (signed name--looks like 2 "n"s to me), age 25; Margaretha Edelman, age 26; Anna Maria Edelman, age 54; Baltasar Edelman, age 4. (I have the complete ship's passenger list--if anyone wants, I can post later.) Bill sent the list later and it is in eg927.
EUROPEAN RECORDS: Hans David Edelmann, citizen in Rott, and wife Anna Margaretha had children:
1. Philip Jacob b. ca. 1708 2. Anna Elisabetha bp. 13 May 1713 (bp.=baptised) 3. Maria Ursela bp. 6 Sept. 1716 4. A daughter b. 9 June 1718, bp. 11 June 1718
Steinselz Reformed KB (church book): Philip Jacob Edelmann, son of David Edelmann of Rott, m. 15 Jan. 1732 Maria Margaretha Wenner, dau. of Simon Wenner of Oberhoffen.
Zweibrucken Manumissions Protocoll, Cleeburg, 1733: David and Philipp Edelmann of Steinselz move with wives and children to Pennsylvania.
AMERICAN RECORDS: First Reformed KB, Lancaster, Pa.: Jacob Edelmann and wife had a son: John David, b. 1 Dec. 1736, bp. 15 May 1737. Sponsors: David Edelmann and wife. Matthew Bauser and wife Anna Elis. nee Edelmann had: 1. Anna Margaret bp. 12 May 1739 2. David bp. 12 May 1739
Baltimore Co., Md. Deed Records, Vol. 2, 1727-1757, John Davis, p. 289, Heritage Books, Inc. 1996
6 Sep 1749, William & Rachel Murphy, planter, of Baltimore Co., MD to Philip Edleman, of Lancaster Co., MD(sic--must be a mistake on the clerk's part??) for 50 pounds, 50 acres on Georges Run. Signed WIlliam (x) Murphy, William Winchester, and Lydia (x) Winchester.
George's Run is very near Lineboro, Md. in present-day Carroll Co.
Same, Vol. 3, 1755-1767
19 Apr 1755, Jacob Shilling Sr. to Philip Eldman, for 40 pounds, 229 acres. Signed Jacob Shilling. Wit: Nicholas Tuxton Gay and John Starkey.
Colonial Maryland Naturalizations: Philip Edleman, Reformed, Baltimore Co., nat. 31 Aug. 1757
Maryland Church Records, Vol. 10, Zion Church, "The German Church", Trinity Lutheran, and Immanuel Lutheran. Zion was in the Manchester, Md. vicinity.
Daniel, son of Gottfried and Maria Elisabetha Welt(in) Laurer, living here, b. 23 Sep. 1760, bp. 2 Oct. 1760. Sponsors: Daniel Edelmann and Maria Born(in), Michell Born's still single daughter.
Anna Maria, dau. of David and Catharine Edelman, bp. 7 Mar. 1762. Sponsors: Frederich and Anna Maria Decker.
>From Vol. 3, York Co, Pa. Church Records of the 18th Century, by Marlene S. Bates and F. Edward Wright
Becker, Anna Maria, daughter of Philip Becker and Julianna bp. 7 Oct. 1759, sponsors: Friedrich Decker and Anna Maria Edelman (Jaboc Lischy's Private Register)
Edelman, Gorg Heinrich of David & Catharina, bp. 24 Mar 1761, sponsors: Gor Heinrich Conrad and Elizabeth (Jacob Lischy's Private Register).
Shilling, Julianna daughter of Jacob Shilling and Elisabeth bp. 14 Feb 1757, sponsors: David and Juliana Edelman (Jacob Lischy's Private Register). [Adam Edelman (from Odenwald, Germany) in Lancaster Co. was m. to a Juliana] Is this SHILLING surname related to Shillings land deeds in Baltimore City?
same, Vol. 2
Eva Catherine of Philipp Edelman b. 15 Nov. 1742, bp 17 Dec. 1741(??), sponsors: Barnhart Young and wife. St. Matthew's Lutheran Church.
Would appreciate if anyone can add to this or has any comments. I await more volumes in the Baltimore Co. Deed records!!!
----Bill Eddleman
Subject: More on Philip Date: 23 Sep 97 14:03:52 -0500 From: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com To: Indbio ; from Bill Eddleman
Dear cousins,
I looked through the book, "The American Addlemans" by Robert P. Addleman last night and found more on Philip Edelman and the younger David in Maryland. As follows:
Baltimore Co. Deeds, 1761, Philip Adleman to George Moyers, Pt. Shillings Folly and Phillipsburg, 243 acres, folio 511.
Baltimore Co. Deeds Register 1659-1800, 5 May 1763, David Idleman to George Myers 140 pounds, Bridgeland--addition to Bridgeland.
[Very interesting that these 2 parcels were apparently sold to the same man. This also pushes records on this David forward in Maryland for 2 more years! It also is the first use of the letter "I" for our name that I have seen. That makes about 34 different spellings I have found in 18th century documents! I wish I had copies of the original deeds--oftentimes relationships are mentioned that don't get copied into abstracts.]
The Daniel Edelman that appears in Maryland is pretty well documented by Robert P. Addleman as having settled on the Addleman spelling after moving to Loudoun Co., VA. He died there and left an estate settlement as: Addlerman, Daniel 1792, intestate.
Harold, YOU REALLY NEED THIS BOOK. Robert has one table that lists all the Edelman/Adelman immigrants he could find from his research and from WHE. He also tries to match them up with know PA locations. WHAT ADDRESS CAN I SEND IT TOO?
Again, I'd love to hear from others on this family.
----Bill
Dear cousins,
One more deed record from the Addleman book: from Robert W. Barnes, "Baltimore
County Families 1659-1759", p. 404--Philip Adleman to Daniel Adleman,
15 a. Shilling's Folly and part Phillipsburg. No date given for the deed.
Also: from F. Edward Wright, comp., "Inhabitants of Baltimore County,
1692-1763, p. 64--Baltimore Co. Debt. book- 1754--Philip Addleman - Phillips
Bough.
Two Michael Edelman fought in the Revolution from Maryland in data that
has been coming in.
I have 2 Michael who fought in the Revolution
. ----Bill
Subject: Philip Edleman Date: 27 Sep 97 00:30:48 -0500
From: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com
To: Indbio
I came across this reference in a book and wish to share with the list
Baltimore County, Maryland Deed Records, Vol. Two, 1727-1757 by John Davis pub. by Heritage Books
p. 289
6 Sep. 1749, William and Rachel Murphy, planter, of Baltimore Co., Maryland to Philip Edleman, of Lancaster Co., Maryland L50, 50 acres... Georges Run. Signed William Murphy, William Winchester, Lydia Winchester.
Message had no identification; who sent it??? says Lancaster MD as in the record above.
Subject: Alsace Eddleman Clan
Date: 28 Sep 97 23:37:02 -0500
From: joeeddleman@InfoAve.Net
To: Indbio
Dear Harold, Do you have the following information taken from St. Matthew's Lutheran Church, Hanover, York County, Pa.or have I already given it to you.
Catrina, dau. of Philip Edelman, b. Nov. 15, 1741, bapt. Dec.16, 1741 Sponser: Berhnhart Houx and wife.
Elias, son of (David?) Edelman, b. July 3, 1743, bapt. March 4, 1744 Sponser" Stoffel Schlegel, wife Anna Maria
Joe Eddleman
This is my query to the same Alsace help page ==> http://feefhs.org/de/als/alsrl.html
Subject: Hanss David Edelmann zu Rott 1733
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 18:33:39 -0700
From: "Harold Eddleman, Ph.D." <indbio@disknet.com> Organization:
Indiana Biolab
To: trendel@monza.u-strasbg.fr
My ancestor Hanss David EDELMANN left Rott, Alsace, in 1733 and arrived at Philadelphia 28 September 1733 on the ship Richard and Elizabeth. For more information about this family in America see http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab/eg907.htm. I am seeking information on his parents. I am also interested in the farming and other conditions of life in Rott and Steinseltz in 1733. I have been told many people of 1733 in Rott might have come from France or Switzerland. Does his name of Edelmann indicate where I should look for his parents? In America, he attended Protestant churches. He was age 49 according to the ship list which gives a birthdate of 1684. I want to add a page of details about Rott in 1733 and before. I can read some French and German.
This is the answer Harold Eddleman received:
Webmaster's Note: Since you decline to specifiy the probable religion of your ancestor, it is not possible to suggest whether the FHL microfilms of Rott church records (1701-1942) or Steinseltz (1685-1792) might be useful. FYI, we specialize in family history, not local or regional history, but perhaps others reading this will offer you some thoughts or references. For a history of Alsace and Lorriane on this website, see http://feefhs.org/frl/fr/sc-alhis.html.
Subject: Philip Eddleman/Idleman Date: 24 Sep 97
From: joeeddleman@InfoAve
Dear members,
The following information is from the William H. Eddleman Collection:
Rent Rolls Scharf Papers: Baltimore County- 25"1" Idlesburg, Surveyed for Philip Idleman the 30th of October, 1757-Beginning at two bounded red oaks standing near the head of a dry gully descending into the main falls of Patapsco River Patented 30th Oct. 1757 11/mo arrears 0:0:11
10"5" Addition to Brigland, surveyed for David Idleman the 10th March 1750 lying and being in Baltimore Cty. Beginning at the end of the south forty six degrees east seventy-six perches line of a tract of land called Brigland Patented the 10th March 1760 6/mo arrears 0:0:21/6
Baltimore County Deeds
1761 Philip Adleman to Daniel Adleman acres folio Pt. Phillipsburg & Shillings folly 150 518
" Philip Adleman to Philip Baker 178 515 New Germany
" Daniel Adleman from Philip Adleman 150 518 Pt. Phillipsburg & Shillings folly
" Philip Adleman to David Adleman 150 522 Pt. Phillipsburg & Shillings folly
" David Adleman from Philip Adleman 150 522 Pt. Phillipsburg & Shillings folly
" Philip Adleman to George Moyer 25 525 Idlesburg
" Philip Adleman from Jacob Shillings Shillings Lot 40 435 Cole Pitt 27 437
1762 David Adleman to Peter Fouble Colchester 33 Coal Pet 77 207 Shillings Lot 44
Hope this helps someone.
Joe Eddleman
-------- Bill Eddleman commented on the above e-message as follows:
WOW! This looks VERY much to me like Philip was conveying land to sons, sons-in-law, or others. With this posting and mine from the other day, we now have a David selling land in Maryland at the EXACT time frame that the David who married Catherine would have gone to NC. As far as I know, we have now assembled the largest collection of these deeds since WHE--although it looks to me like he even missed some of them.
Harold, we need to get the original deeds! Again, we can probably get these through LDS. We might also either find or hire a local contact, or see if the County Clerk will copy deeds. There is just a chance a relationship will be mentioned in at least one of them.
----Bill