This page is the data sent by Jim Groce in a series he labeled "John" Peter Edelmann. This is his raw gleanings as he sent them on the Eddleman Discussion List. This listing contains some data which does not refer to "John" Peter Edelman. We request your help in removing the unrelated data.
Subject: "John" Peter Edelman --- Report #1 by James Groce
immigrant Sept 5, 1730
Date: 16 Nov 97 13:25:26 -0500
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Dear EDL, here is a "draft" which introduces this Edelman family and which is based on the correspondence between Ms. Donna Elaine Edelman, Easton, Pennsylvania and Mr. William H. Eddleman, Dorchester, Massachusetts during the period 1957-1964.
"John" Peter Edelman and his wife, Maria Elizabeth Tommer Edelman arrived in Philadelphia on Sept 5, 1730. They were among the earliest settlers in the area of Williams township, near Easton, PA. Donna wrote "according to my recollection Dad said that my grandfather traced John Peter Edelman to Seilbach, in the County of Hachenburg, and was recognized as a member of the Reformed Church." "I understand my grandfather's information was gotten from the church book of the Congregation of the Forks of the Delaware (Lutheran)". This church was located on Old Philadelphia Road, "Mammy Morgan's Hill", at present day Easton, PA.
"John" Peter Edelman; no birth/death place/date shown Maria Elizabeth Toomer Edelman, b. Jan 20,1722; d. Sept 23, 1805, age 83 yrs, 8 mos, buried in old Easton Cemetery where Easton Library now located. Maria had sisters Anna Margaret, married to Conrad Zellers,and Eva, wife of John David Reinheimer.
Peter Edelman, died in infancy.
John Conrad Edelman, b. Nov 20, 1751, d. Nov 21, 1807; buried at cemetery at St. John's Lutheran Church; he married Catherine Yeager, b. Dec 11, 1751;d. Apr 22, 1835;
Susanna Edelman, b. 1755; <center> d. Jan 5, 1841, buried cemetery at Moorestown Church; she married George Nolf of Bethlehem, PA. </center>
1.Susanna Edelman, b. 14 Oct 1776, d. Nov 15,1855;married Abraham Kocher on July 7, 1801 Another document cites record at First Reformed Church, Easton,PA. They lived at Forks Township, Northampton County;
2. Conrad Edelman, b. Aug 13, 1782; d. 1844; married Marie Polly Kocher, a sister of Abraham Kocher.
3. Elizabeth Edelman, b. Nov 30, 1782, d. Feb 14,1826, buried Easton Cemetery, never married.
4. John Peter Edelman, b. Feb 7, 1785, d. Nov 17, 1826, married Elizabeth Paulus Oct 30,1806; she was born Aug 13, 1788,died Sept 11,1847( family lived at Edelman's Cross Roads, Palmer Township, Northampton County;
5. Maria Catherine Edelman, b. Oct 21, 1787,married Jonus Kocher.
6. Anna Maria Edelman,b. Nov 5, 1788,d. Jan 17,1830, married Peter Kachline;
7. John George Edelman, b. April 22, 1792,d. June 7,1863; married Leah Hahn b. Jan 3, 1808;
8. Jacob Edelman, b. June 6, 1795, d. Apr 29,1876;buried Easton Cemetery; married Elizabeth Young Feb 28, 1822; she died Mar 15, 1873. This family lived near Edelman's Cross Roads;
9. Joseph Edelman, b. 1798, d. Mar 4, 1858; married Anna Margaret Helker;later married Elizabeth Seip Buss, a widow.
If EDL finds the listing for this Edelman family useful; the several subsequent generations will be added in the next few days. Best wishes, Jim Groce
James Groce replied:
Dear Harold
I was able to validate some of Donna's material against church records
in the WHE or Eddelman
Collection; I will review the material again before continuing with the
additional generations of this particular Edelman "tribe".
Jim
Subject: [EDDLEMAN-L] Edelmans in Northampton Co. PA Date: 30 Nov 97 10:36:20 -0500 From: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com To: Indbio
Dear cousins,
I have read with great interest the materials Jim has posted on the John Peter Edelman family in the Easton area. I have corresponded with at least one descendant of an Adam Edelman who appears in some of the same records as this family (Williams Township Congregation, Northampton Co., PA). Her name is Grace Collins, and I do not believe she is online. There was also a Johann Georg that appears in some of the same records. Grace has many additional records on these other families.
Interestingly, this John Peter is the family that my uncle thought was our line. It is most assuredly not, since John Peter had only 2 sons. One died young (Peter) and the other (Conrad) stayed in the area, as indicated by Jim's records. My uncle also had Marie Elizabeth as a Zohn, and I have no idea why (since I have never found anyone by this name marrying an Edelman). I have seen her surname as both Toomer and Tomer. Uncle Riley also liberally mixed this family with the Lancaster Co. David Edelmann family. I really don't think he understood the Pa. records very well--they are confusing if you don't keep the locations straight!
----Bill
ubject: Re: North Carolina Eddleman Date: 17 Nov 97 10:29:52 -0500 From: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com To: Indbio
At 12:19 PM 11/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >I'm new to the list, so please be patient! I'm looking to further my research >to my Eddleman line in North Carolina. Here's what I have so far... > >Peter Eddleman, born abt 1715 in Pennsylvania. Married Anna Catharina Jherg >on Spetember 8, 1751 in Berks Co., Pennsylvania. Children were Maria >Elisabeth, and John Peter, both born in Pennsylvania. The family moved to >Rowan County, North Carolina. Peter died in Rowan County on February 4, 1795.
What is the source of your information about the birth and marriage? I have a lot of information on this family, and I had Catherine Gehrig as the wife, and had never found a marriage date. Other researchers had assumed old Peter was born in Germany, and this pre-dates any known Edelman/Eddleman immigration by 15 years. Rowan Co. deeds prove that there was at least one other son--John--who lived in Cabarrus Co., NC later.
> >John Peter Eddleman, born October 10, 1758. Married Catharine Earey on >January 31, 1787 in Rowan County, North Carolina. I only know of one of their >children: Philip Eddleman.
Where did you find the birth date for John Peter? Organ Lutheran Church records and his estate settlement papers document his other children. Apparently Peter and Catharine had 3 children (Philip, Peter, and Catharine). Catharine died (Pastor Storch records list his preaching a funeral for Peter Eddleman's wife), and Peter remarried Elizabeth Kruse/Cruss. They had additional children.
> >Philip Eddleman, born November 19, 1787. Married Sarah H. Duke. Children were >Simon Peter, John A., and Alexander. Philip died on December 7, 1854.
Again, I had never found Philip's wife's surname. What is your source?
> >Simon Peter was born June 27, 1823 in North Carolina. Married once to an >unknown woman, and had my great grandmother Mary Jane. Simon married a second >time to Eliza M. Klutts on February 13, 1866. Their children were: Mary (born >abt 1859), Jacob H. (born abt 1861), Sallie D. (born abt 1867), Margaret L. >(born abt 1868, Married a ??? Boon and I know of one child, Luther), and John >D. (born abt 1873). > >MaryJane Eddleman was born January 1, 1850 in Rowan County, North Carolina. >Married to Charles Esamiah Beaver. Their children were: Carrie Moselle, >Harrison A., Henry Cornelius, John W., Amzire Burette. MaryJane died March >10, 1936 and is buried at Greenlawn Cemetery, in Rowan County, North >Carolina. > >I would love to hear from anyone researching the same line. Thank You! >
I HOPE THIS IS #2 FROM JAMES GROCE ABOUT "jOHN" PETER EDDLEMAN
I AM NOT SURE, I AM AWAITING JIM'S ANSWER
PUT REPORT #2 HERE.
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Here is the additional family group information which is contained in
the 1957-1964 correspondence
between
Ms. Donna Elaine Edelman, Easton, PA and Mr William H. Eddleman, Dorchester,MA.
Also, Mr. Eddelman's correspondence with Donna's paternal uncle, Mr. Forest
Edelman, Hatboro, PA and Dr. W. F. Weber, Darmstadt, Germany. Mr. Edelman,
who stated he was 78 years old on Jan 13,1954, placed his unpublished manuscript
"John Peter Edelman and Allied Familys" at the Easton Public
Library, Easton, PA. He wrote, also, that " an old copy is at Doylestown".
Regarding the origin of this family, Mr. Eddleman
wrote Donna on August 3, 1964 "After these many years of searching, I believe I have finally located the location from whence your ancestor Peter Edelman came. The names Peter and Conrad Edelman appear consistently in the family who lived in<bold> Oberdielbach by Waldkatzenbach</bold> which is near <bold>Eberbach, Germany</bold>."
Children of and grandchildren of Conrad Edelman and Anna Maria Kocher:
1. Peter Edelman, b. Sept 11,1814; he had three children: Mary Ann Edelman, Susanna Edelman who married a Zachariah Stocker, and Josiah Edelman.
2. Daniel Edelman, b. Apr 27, 1815; he had four children: Peggy Ann Edelman who married a Hickson, Mary Ann Edelman, Cecilia Edelman, and Alice Edelman.
3. Sarah Ann Edelman, b. Oct 7,1817;she married Nicholas Lantz (b. Nov 16, 1817) on June 7, 1838. They had four children who were not identified.
4. Julian Edelman, b. Oct 10, 1830, married Philip Diel. They had two children who were not identified.
5. Anna Maria Edelman; she married William Schick; they had four children who were not identified.
Children of John Peter Edelman and Elizabeth Paulus:
1. Charles Edelman, b. Sept 30, 1809, married Susanna Walters (b.Nov 9,1809) on Nov 17,1833. Their child Peter Edelman,b. June 20,1835, married Elizabeth Beck May 28, 1857.This couple (Peter Edelman and Elizabeth Beck) had two children:Charles H. Edelman, b. Mar 16, 1858, married Sarah E. Deck (b. June 14, 1862) on Nov 3, 1881, and an unidentified daughter married a Barnet.
2. Peter Edelman, b. Sept 12, 1812, d. 1820.
3. Jacob Edelman, b. Mar 19,1811, d. 1812.
4. Joseph Edelman, b. Dec 15,1814, d. Mar 3, 1906, never married.
5. John Edelman, b. Mar 11,1817, d. July 13, 1858, married Mary Jeager (b. June 14, 1823) Their six children: Samuel Edelman, b. Feb 19, 1845, married Mary Knecht; John Henry Edelman, b. Nov 23, 1846, married Ellen Soken. Note: John Henry died at Lincoln, Nebraska;
Mary Rosena Edelman, b. Sept 30, 1849, d. 1904; she married Frank Reichelderfer; Andrew C. Edelman, b. Nov 13, 1851, married Anna R. Johnson; unidentfied child b.
Feb 2, 1854, d. May 1854; and Sarah J. Edelman, b. Sept 8, 1856, married Jacob Oldenwalder.
6. David Edelman, b. Aug 31,1819, d. May 3, 1899,
married Sabina Hilliard. Their children were Rose Edelman married to Stephen Bender; Emma E. Edelman married to Tilghman Odenwalder; and Alvin J. Edelman married to a Woodring.
7. Catherine Edelman, b. Apr 15, 1823, married Lewis Seip.
8. Anna Madline Edelman, b. Feb 15, 1826, married Jacob Seip on Mar 5, 1849.
Children of Jacob Edelman and Elizabeth Young:
1. Susan C. Edelman, b. Sep 7, 1823, d. Sep 30, 1895, never married.
2. John Young Edelman, b. Sep 24, 1825, d. Sep 1909; married, first, Catherine Knecht, widow of Thomas Knecht. Then married a woman not identified; their three children were William Edelamn, Thomas Edelman, and John Edelman; all living at one time at Wamego, Kansas.
3. Herman Jacob Edelman, b. July 8, 1830, d. Sep 1911 at Wamego, Kansas. He married Sabina Richards, d. 1876. No children identified.
4. William Conrad Edelman, b. Nov 6, 1838, d. Oct 18,1906, married Emma Susanna Hineline(b. Oct 28, 1851, d. Feb 28, 1928)on 26 Aug 1869.
Children and grandchildren of Joseph Edelman and Elizabeth Seip Buss:
1.Edward Edelman, b. Mar 18, 1834, married Susanna S. Franken. Children identified of this marriage were Oscar S. Edelman, b. Apr 11, 1867; Cora S. Edelman, b. June 12, 1869; and Adam M. Edelman, b. July 17, 1872.
2. Joseph Edelman, b. Apr 20, 1836, married Priscilla C Kemmerer, nee Seiple. They had six children.
3. James Edelman, b. Feb 7, 1845, d. July 17, 1901. He married Mary A. Mack, then a Denning.
4. Ellen Edelman, b. Jan 24, 1847, married George W. Coleman.
A listing of some of the church records which may support the two "drafts" for this family:
Williams Township Congregation, Northampton County, PA.
Baptism of children of Johann Peter Edelman and wife, Maria Elizabeth Tommer:
1. Johann Conrad, b. Nov 9, 1751; bapt. Nov 12, 1751; sponsors were Conrad Zell and wife, Margaretha.
2. Johann Georg Peter, b. Oct 28, 1753, bapt. Nov 5, 1753; sponsors were Eva Pommer and Daniel Rheinhelmer.
Also, confirmations, 1770:
Susan Edelman, 15 years of age.
Catherine Edelman, 16 years of age.
and communicants:
June 15, 1771, Elizabeth Edelman, daughter Susana
Dec 5, 1772, Elizabeth, daughter Anna Catharina.
Goshenhoppen Reformed Church, Upper Hanover Township, Montgomery County, PA.
3. Maria Elizabeth, bapt. Mar 11, 1758; sponsors were J. George Edelman and wife, Maria Catharine.
St. John's Lutheran Church, Easton, PA.
1. pg. 314, Maria Elizabeth Edelman, died Sept 23, 1805.
Note: This appears to be Maria Elizabeth Toomer, John Peter Edelman's wife.
2. Marriage of Conrad Edelman and Catharina Yagerin on Mar 23, 1773. Note: Yagerin is feminine form of Yager.
3. communicants
1773, Conrad Edelman, wife Catherine
1775, Conrad Edelman, wife Catherine
4. Burial
pg. 346, Catherina Yager, daughter of Johan and Elizabeth, b. Dec 11, 1751, Sponsors: George Zimmerman and wife, Catharina, confirmed, communed, married Joh. Conrad Edelman, Mar 28, 1773. Ten children, four dead, Palsy and old age weakness, died Apr 22, 1834; also,
pg. 343, Anna Maria Edelman, daughter of Conrad Edelman and wife Catherina, b. Nov 26, 1789, Sp. Michael Odenwelder and wife, Anna Margratha, confirmed, communed, married Peter Kuchlein Apr 16, 1809. Twelve children. 7 sons, 5 daughters. 2 sons and 1 daughter died. Consumption. 5 weeks sickness. Died Jan 17, 1830, aged 41 yrs. 1 mo. 22 days.
Daniel Edelman, son of Conrad and Mary Edelman, b. June 11, 1815, d. Feb 23 1865, aged 49 yrs, 8 mo. 13 days. Killed by fall of a stone in a quarry, buried in Hays graveyard, Feb 26.
5. Baptisms for children of Conrad Edelman and Catherina Yager (Yeager)are: Elizabeth, b. Nov 15, 1781, bapt. Jan 1, 1781, sponsors, Mandel Zallar, Elizabeth Yager, pg. 5;
Johan Petrus, b. Feb 7, 1785, bapt. Mar 20, 1785, sponsors Johan Yager and Catharina, pg. 14;
Maria Catharine, b. Oct 21, 1767, bapt. Dec 9, 1787, sponsor John Jeager and Catharina, pg. 19;
Johan George, b. Apr 22, 1792, bapt. May 20, 1792, sponsors Philip Muller and Margareath, pg. 29.
6. Marriages:
pg. 278, Apr 16, 1809, Peter Koechlein and Anna Maria Edelman;
pg. 279, May 27, 1810, Jones Kocher and Anna Maria Edelman;
Dec 11, 1836, Daniel Edelman and Mary Wolfinger;
pg. 305, Nov. 24, 1841, Philip Diehl and Julian Edelman.
First Settler of Forks of Delaware Congregation
pg. 388, marriage Jan 7, 1738, Nicholas Lantz and Sarah Ann Edelman.
Dryland Church, Hecktown, Lutheran and Reformed, Nazareth Township, Northampton County, PA.
Baptisms of some of John Conrad Edelman and wife,Catharina's children:
Susanna, b. Oct 14, 1776, bapt. Nov 10, 1776, sponsors: George Nolf and Susanna (Edelman);
Conrad, b. Aug 13, 1782, bapt. Oct 13, 1782, sponsors: Philip Odenwalder and Anna Maria;
The above information is based on sources believed to be reliable. Certainly, mistakes are possible and regretted where they occur. Serious Edelmann family researchers have an obligation to corroborate their information. More later on these families. Hopefully, a member of this particular Edelmann "tribe" will come forward to reorganize and extend this information. Jim
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<excerpt>Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 19:34:20 +0100
To: EDDELMAN-L@rootsweb.com REPORT # 3 by James Groce
From: "James D. Groce" <<jgroce@bunt.com>
Subject: "John" Peter Edelman-Maria Margaret Toomer Family Group, third report
Dear EDL, here is another report or installment on this Edelman clan who may have immigrated from Ober Dielbach by Waldkatzenback, near Eberbach.
Children of John George Edelman(b. April 22, 1792) and Leah Hahn(b. Jan 3, 1808):
1. Rueben Edelman, b. Apr 12, 1829; d. Jan 14, 1903,unmarried.
2. John George Edelman, b. Sep 26, 1830;
d. Jan 28, 1870, unmarried.
3. Ebisena Violetta Edelman, b. Apr 15, 1833;
d. May 23, 1838.
4. Hiram Edelman, b. June 19, 1837;
d. Feb 25, 1905, married Eliza Alger.
More records at <bold>St. John's Lutheran Church</bold>, Easton, PA are:
Baptisms
Peter Edelman, b.Mar 9,1812, bapt.April 28, 1812,
son of Conrad and Anna Maria Edelman. Sponsor,
Catherine Edelman.
Juliana Edelman, b. Aug 10, 1820;
bapt. Oct 10, 1820, dau. of Conrad Edelman and
wife Maria. Sp. Jacob Ockerman and Elizabeth.
Mary, b. Nov 8, 1845, bapt Nov 20,1845; dau of
Daniel Edelman and Mary. Sp. parents.
Azelia, b. Aug 7, 1849, bapt. Apr 8, 1855;
dau of Daniel Edelman and Mary. Sp. parents.
Alice, b. Nov 10, 1854, bapt. Apr 8, 1855, dau
of Daniel Edelman and Mary. Sp. parents.
Carl Edelman, b. Sep 30, 1809, bapt. Nov 12,1809;
parents, Peter Edelman and Elizabeth; Sp. Peter
Kochline and Maria.
Jacob Edelman, b. Mar 19, 1811,bapt. May 12,1811;
parents, Peter Edelman and Elizabeth;
Sp. Catherine Edelman. Note: Jacob died
Sep 24, 1812, age 1 yr, 6 mo, 3 days.
Peter Edelman, b. Sep 12, 1812;bapt. Sep 24,1812;
parents Peter Edelman and Elizabeth; Sponsor
Philip Odenwalder and Elizabeth. Note: Peter
died 1820, age 7 yr, 10 mo, 23 days.
John Edelman, b. Mar 11, 1817, bapt. Aug 3, 1817;
parents Peter Edelman and Elizabeth; sponsor
Christian Yager and Eve.
Catherine Edelman, b. Apr 15, 1823; bapt.
Sep 21, 1823, parents Peter Edelman and Elizabeth
Sponsor, Catharine Edelman.
Anna Malinda, b. Feb 15, 1826; bapt. Jul 22,1826;
parents Peter Edelman and Elizabeth; Sponsor
Jacob Keuchlein and Elizabeth.
Lucy West Edelman, dau of John Edelman and Maria;
b. Feb 2, 1854, bapt. Feb 17, 1854; Sponsors,
parents.
Sarah Jane Edelman,dau of John Edelman and Maria;
b. Sep 8, 1856, bapt. Oct 21, 1856; Sponsors,
parents.
Baptism of children of Charles H. Edelman and
Harriet C.; all on Apr 9, 1870:
Della Alma, b. Nov 6, 1859
Emma Jane, b. Feb 17, 1863
Joseph William, b. Feb 25, 1865
Iona, b. Oct 31, 1868
Joh. George Edelman, b. Sept 26, 1830; bapt.
Nov 21,1830; parents, Joh. George Edelman and
Sarah; Sponsor, parents, pg. 181.
Reuben Edelman, b. Apr 12, 1829; bapt. June 27,
1829; parents, George Edelman and Leah;
Sponsor, Catherine Edelman, pg. 172.
Ebesina Violetta, dau. of Johan Edelman and
Leah, b. Apr 15, 1833; bapt. July 27, 1833;
Sponsor, Catharine Hahn.
Peggy Ann Kuechlein, dau. of Peter Kuechlein
and Maria; b. Aug 12, 1829; bapt. Oct 26, 1829;
Sponsors, Joseph Edelman and Anna; pg. 174.
Edward Edelman, son of Joseph and Elizabeth,
b. Mar 18, 1834, bapt. May 8, 1834; Sponsors,
parents; pg. 207.
Joseph Edelman, son of Joseph and Elizabeth,
b. Apr 20, 1836; bapt. July 2, 1836; Sponsors,
parents; pg. 220.
Tilgham Edelman, son of Joseph and Elizabeth,
b. Nov 28, 1842; bapt. Dec 16, 1842; Sponsors,
parents, pg. 257.
Note: Tilgham's death is recorded on pg. 353;
died Apr 3, 1844, age 1 yr, 4 mo, 6 days;
"Measles".
James Andrew Edelman, son of Joseph and Elizabeth
b. Feb 7, 1845; bapt. Mar 29, 1845; Sponsors,
parents; pg. 268.
Ellen Elizabeth Edelman, dau. of Joseph and
Elizabeth; b. Jan 2, 1847; bapt. Feb 21, 1847;
Sponsors, parents.
Maria Edelman, dau. of Adam and Maria, b. July
9, 1809; bapt. Sep 3, 1809; Sponsors, Peter
Muller and Maria Christina; pg. 82.
Sarah Ann Edelman, dau. of Adam and Maria;
b. Nov 18, 1810; bapt. Aug 18, 1811; Sponsors,
Peter Deitz and Anna Maria, pg. 97.
Maria Edelman, dau. of George and Elizabeth;
b. Apr 30, 1812; bapt. May 10, 1812; Sponsors,
Peter Peter Muller and Maria Christina, pg. 103.
Simon Horr, son of Simon and Catharine;
b. Apr 1, 1813; bapt. May 30, 1813; Sponsors,
George Edelman and Elizabeth; pg. 110.
Johan Meixsell Edelman, son of George and
Elizabeth; b. Jan 4, 1814; bapt. Feb 6, 1814;
Sponsors, Heinrich Muller and Elizabeth; pg. 115.
Marriages
Mar 26, 1833; Joseph Edelman, widower, to
Elizabeth Buss, widower; pg. 296.
Oct 14, 1827; George Edelman and Leah Hahn;
pg. 289.
Apr 27, 1873; Frank Reichelderfer, of Easton,
son of John and Susan Reichelderfer, married,
Mary R. Edelman of Northampton Co., dau. of
John and Mary Edelman, at Parsonage; pg. 511.
Feb 22, 1875; Andrew C. Edelman, of Easton, son
of John and Mary Edelman, married Anna Regina
Johnson, of Easton, dau. of James and Leonora
Johnson, at Parsonage; pg. 518.
Oct 30, 1806; John Peter Edelman married
Elizabeth Paulus; pg. 27_.
Sep 22, 1844; John Edelman and Mary Yager;
pg. 307.
June 11, 1848; David Edelman, farmer, son of
Peter and Elizabeth Edelman, married Sabina
Hilliard, dau. of John and Sarah Hillliard,
both of Forks Twp., at Parsonage, Easton; Vol
II; pg. 298.
Records to be entered in the near future include Lutheran Congregation of Stone Church, Allen Twp.,
Northampton Co., Evangelical Congregation of Moorestown,
Northampton Co., Lower Saucon Reformed Church; Williams Twp. Congregation; Salem Church of Moore Twp., Zion
Evangelical Lutheran Church, Easton, PA; listings in
<bold>Some Settlers of Forks of the Delaware</bold> by Keiffer; and
Northampton County, PA Deed book entries.
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Dear EDL, here is one more report on this pioneer Pennsylvania family whose early generations lived in or near Northampton County. Source for this information is
the Eddelman Family Notes Collection maintained at The Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA. The following notes are transcribed from a photocopy of a fading type-written copy of notes which may may been prepared by William H. Eddelman in the 1950's or a part of the family history prepared by Forest Edelman, Hatboro,PA. In transcribing them, one frequently must use a magnifying glass to "pick out" words or letters.
These are truly valuable "notes" and I have attempted to organize them around source citations but no attempt has been made to "edit" them.
<bold>Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church</bold>, Easton, PA
Deaths or Burials:
Sabina Edelman, child of Johannes and Sarah Hilliard, b. Sep 17, 1827; d. Apr 9, 1893, age 65 yrs,
6 mo, 23 days, pg. 314.
Anna Magdalena Seip, daughter of Peter and Elizabeth Edelman, b. Feb 15, 1826; d. June 27, 1869,
age 43 yrs, 4 mo, 12 days, pg. 106.
<bold>
Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church</bold>, Easton, PA
Burials, pg. 152; Mary Edelman, wife of John Edelman, b. June 14, 1823; d. July 13, 1858, of apoplexy, buried July 15, 1858, in Easton Cemetery, age
35 yrs, 29 days. Survived by a husband and 5 children.
<bold>German Reformed Congregation, </bold>Easton, PA
Records 1833-1885:
Baptisms
William Conrad, son of Jacob Edelman and wife Elizabeth Young, b. Nov 9, 1838, bapt. Sept 29, 1841;
Sponsors, parents; pg. 15
Carrie Sabina, dau. of Herman I. and Sabina A. Edelman, b. Feb 15, 1868, bapt. Feb 19, 1868; pg. 92.
Jacob Clarence, son of William C. and Emma S. Edelman, b. Apr 7, 1870, bapt. June 25, 1870; pg. 98.
William Conrad, son of William C. and Emma S.
Edelman, b. July 13, 1871, bapt. Aug 11, 1871, pg. 101.
Deaths
Jacob Clarence Edelman, son of William C. and Emma S. Edelman, d. Sept 14, 1860, age 6 months, 7 days;
pg. 155.
Elizabeth Edelman, wife of Jacob Edelman, died Mar 15, 1873, age 71 yrs, 8 days. Consumption, pg. 159.
Note: This is probably Elizabeth Young Edelman.
Jacob Edelman, d. Apr 29, 1876, age 80 yrs, 23 days. Dropsy, pg. 162.
<bold> Lutheran and Reformed Congregation of Stone Church</bold>, Allen Twp., Northampton Co., 1772-1822.
Reformed records, pg. 5
George Edelman and Catharine, sponsors for Anna Maria,b. June 17, 1779; bapt. Aug 22, 1779, daughter of Christian Hellman and wife Rosina.
Pg. 6, Catharine Edelman and Leonard Liie sponsors for
Valentine, b. Apr 1, 1780, bapt. May 14, 1780, son of Valentine Jent and wife, Louisa.
Lutheran records:
Pg. 50, Johann Edelman and Maria Catharina, dau.
Eva Regina, b. June 17, 1773, Bapt. ____, sponsors, Conrad Kreiter and Regina.
George Edelmann and Maria Catharina, sponsor for
Johan George, b. Feb 14, 1775, bapt. Apr 16, 1775, son of Heinrich Beil and wife Maria Elizabeth, pg 52.
Christian Haas and Catharina Edelmanin, sponsors
for Henrich, b. Dec 19, 1776, bapt. Jan 7, 1778, son of Henrich Beil and wife Maria Elizabeth, pg. 57.
Johan Adelmanin and Maria, sponsors for Johan G.,
b. Apr 13, 1780; bapt. May 21, 1780, son of Hainrich Beil, and wife Marie E., pg.58.
John Edelman and Anna Maria Koch, sponsors for
John Koch, b. July 23, 1797, bapt. Sept 10, 1797, son of John Koch and Catharine.
George Edelman and Maria Catharina, sponsors for
Eva Catharina, b. Aug 20, 1781, bapt. Nov 4, 1781, dau. of Conrad Berger and wife Eva Elizabeth, pg. 60.
Regina Edelmannin and Georg Hauer, sponsors for
Regina, b. Aug 6, 1785, bapt. Nov 20, 1785, dau. of Friedrich Hauer and wife, pg. 66.
Regina Edelmannin and Michael Lillin, sponsors for Eva Regina, b. Dec 27, 1785, bapt. Jan 15, 1786, dau. of Leonhard Lilli and Catharina, pg. 66.
George Edelman and Maria Cathar., sponsors for Maria Catharina, b. Feb 12, 1791; bapt. Apr 3, 1791, dau. of Abrm Stegl (Beyl?) and wife Regina, pg. 68.
Georg Edelman and Catharina, sponsors for Susanna, b. May 16, 1790, bapt. June 14, 1790, dau. of Leonhardt Lilli and Catharina, pg. 72.
Confirmation, pg. 121, 1785, George Edelman's daughter Regina, 14 years;
1791, Johan Edelman, son of Johan, 15 years.
<bold>Tohickon Reformed Church</bold>, Bucks County, PA
Baptism
pg. 116, Adam Edelman and Elizabeth, dau. Elizabeth Barbara, b. Sep 20, 1761; bapt. Oct 11, 1761,
sponsors, George Muller and wife.
Deaths
John Koch, the eldest son of John George Koch and Elizabeth Magdalena Hecker, born Nov 7, 1772, died Mar 15, 1858, md. to Eva Catharine Edelman.
<bold>Evangelical Congregation of Moorestown</bold>, Northampton Co., PA
Baptisms
Johan Edelmann and Catharine, daughter Catharina,
b. May 28, 1803, bapt. July 3, 1803, Sponsors, Johann Roth and Catharine.
Johannes Edelmann and Catharine, son Jacob, b. July 16, 1806, bapt. Aug 10, 1806, Sp. John Wealthy and Elizabeth.
Johannes Edelmann and Catharina, son Carl, b.
June 29, 1808, bapt. Aug 14, 1808, Sp. David Fanner and Elizabeth Welthy.
Johannes Edelman and Katharina, son David, b.
Aug 12, 1810, bapt. Aug 7, 1810, Sp. Georg Edelman and wife Katharina. Note: dates appear reversed.
Johannes Edelman and Katharina, son Samuel, b. Sept 12, 1812, bapt. Nov. 14, 1812, Sp. Jacob Danner and Maria.
Johan Edelman and Katharine, dau. Julianna, b. Dec 14, 1817, bapt. Feb 15, 1818, Sp. Christian Welti and Katharin Lillie.
Johan Edelman and Katharine, dau. Lea, b. Aug 15,
1823; bapt. Sep 21, 1823, Sp. Philip Hebberly and Susanne.
John Edelman and Katharine, son William, b. Feb 19, 1828, bapt. Apr 5, 1828, Sp. John Heine and Maria Katharine.
Johan Edelman and <underline>Elizabeth</underline> (is this copied correctly? should it not be Katharina?), dau. Elizabeth, b. Dec 16, 1814, bapt. Feb 19, 1815, Sp. Peter Welt and
Magdalena. Note: this entry copied as shown on typed note.
Johan Edelman and Katharina, sponsors for Katharina Raten, b. June 4, 1810, bapt. July 29, 1810,
dau. of Jacob Raten and Maria.
Johannes Edelmann and Katharina, sponsors for Johannes Lechst, b. Oct 4, 1811, bapt. Nov 3, 1811, son of Gotlieb Lechst and Catharina.
Johan Edelman and Katharine, sponsor for Thomas Schott, b. Jan 15, 1821, bapt. Feb 11, 1821, son of Johan Schott and Christine.
Johan Edelman and Katharine, sponsor for Gideon
Schall, b. Mar 10, 1821, bapt. Apr 21, 1821, son of Samuel Schall and Katharine.
John Edelman, wife Katharine, sponsor for Wilhelm Hebberly, b. Sep 12, 1824, bapt. Oct 16, 1824, son of Philip Heberly and Susanna.
Johan Edelman and Katharine, sponsor for Wilhelm Welt, b. May 29, 1828, bapt. Jul 18, 1828, son of Christian Welt and Katharine.
Joh. Edelman and Maria Katharine, sponsor for Maria Catharine, b. Jan 17, 1829, bapt. Feb 8, 1829, dau. of John Meine and Maria Katharine.
John Edelman and Elizabeth, dau. Maria Anna, b. July 10, 1822, bapt. Aug 11, 1822, Sponsors, Joh. Edelman and Katharine.
John Edelman and Elizabeth, son Reuben, b. Dec 2,
1826, bapt. Mar 11, 1826, Sponsor Saml Schall and Katharine. Note: a transcription error in the dates.
Johan Edelman and Elis, dau. Julianna, b. Nov 1, 1830, bapt. Jan 30, 1831, Sp. Christian Best and Maria.
Johan Edelman and Maria, dau. Elizabeth, b. Dec 3, 1833, bapt. Jan 25, 1834, Sp. Joseph Dilgert, wife Elizabeth.
Jacob Edelman and Julianna, son Wilhelm, b. June 22, 1836, bapt. Aug 7, 1836, Sp. Johan Edelman and Katharina.
Jacob Edelman and Julianna, son Joseph, b. July 19, 1838, bapt. Nov 25, 1838, Sp. Parents.
Chs Edalman and Katharine, dau. Lea, b. Jan 20, 1835, bapt. Mar 29, 1835, Sp. Joseph Hoch and Louisa.
Carl Edelman and Katharina, son Stephanus, b. Mar 12, 1837, bapt. Aug 23, 1837, Sp. Johan Edelman and Katharina.
Carl Edelman and Katharine, son Wilhelm, b. Apr 4, 1839, bapt. June 10, 1839, Sp. Samuel Schall and Katharine.
Samuel Edelman and Sarah, dau. Katharina, b. July 14, 1837, bapt. Aug 23, 1837, Sp. Johan Edelman and Katharina.
Samuel Edelmann and Sara, sponsors for Sarah, b. Jan 21, 1837, bapt. Feb 9, 1837, dau. of Jesse Keckman and Elizabeth.
Jacob Edelman, son of John and Katharine Edleman, born July 16, 1806. Note: Incomplete entry.
Samuel Edelman, son of John and Katharine Edleman, born Sept 12, 1812. Note: Incomplete entry.
Carl Edelman, son of John and Katharine Edleman, b. June 29, 1808. Note: Incomplete entry.
Confirmation, 1817, John Edelman, John's son.
Subscribed for building Salem Church, Moore Twp.,
1835;
Jacob Edelman, $8.00
John Edelman, $40.00
George Edelman, $20.00
More to come including burial/death records for St. John's Lutheran Church, Easton, PA and notes of Donna Elaine Edelman.
<center><bold>The message is worth sending even if it is never received.
</bold>James D. Groce
LRMC,CMR 402, BOX 462
APO AE 09180
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X-Message: #4 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 22:18:30 +0100 From: "James D. Groce" <jgroce@bunt.com> To: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971128221830.006cd34c@mail3.bunt.com> Subject: [EDDLEMAN-L] "John" Peter Edelman and Maria Elizabeth Toomer families, Northampton County,PA Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Dear EDL, here is another segment on this extraordinary pioneer family.
<bold> First Methodist Episcopal Church</bold>, Second St.,
Easton, PA, 1836-1893
pg. 103, William C. Mixson, of Easton, Pa.,
married July 18, 1868, Margarett A. Edleman, of
Easton, Pa.
<bold>St. John's Lutheran Church</bold>, Easton, PA
Deaths
Mary Ann Edelman, dau. of Peter and Christiana
Edelman, b. May 16, 1835, d. Sept 5, 1853, age
18 yrs, 3 mo, 20 days, of Typhoid fever. Buried
in Hay's graveyard, Sept 7, pg. 602.
Mary Edelman, daughter of Peter and Mary Kocher,
b. Mar 27, 1790, d. Feb 9, 1872, buried in St.
John's graveyard, Feb 12.
Elizabeth Edelman, a daughter of John Condrad and
Catharine, born Nov 14, 1780, Sp. Wendler Zellar
and Elizabeth Yager. Confirmed, commmuned.
Dropsy. Died Feb 14, 1826. Aged 46 yr. (1827?)
Catherine Buss, daughter of George and Elizabeth
Buss (married to Hon. Joseph Edelman), b. Apr.
2, 1829, Sp. Georg Schada and wife Elizabeth.
Schalach fever, d. Apr 21, 1833, aged 4 yrs, 9
days, pg. 346. Note: Schalach fever is Scarlet
fever.
Ebesina Violetta Edelman, dau. of George and Lea
Edelman, b. Apr 15, 1833, Sp. grandmother,
Catherine Hahn. Schalach fever, died May 23,
1838, ages 5 yrs, 1 mo, 8 days.
Peter Edelman, son of Joh. Conr.and Catharina
Edelman, b. Feb 7, 1785, Sp. John Yager and
Elizabeth. Confirmed, Communed, married, Oct
30, 1808, Elizabeth Paulus. Eight children, 2
died. Ended with Palsy, died Nov 17, 1826, aged
41 yrs, 9 mo, 2 days, pg. 337.
Elizabeth Edelman, Widow, 21 years of Peter
Edelman, daughter of Michael and Christina
Paulus, b. Aug 13, 1788, of Forks Twp., d.
Sept 11, 1847, aged 59 years, 26 days. Apoplexy.
Survived by <underline>nine?</underline> children. Buried in St. John's
Easton, Sept 11.
Lucy West Edelman, dau. of John and Mary
Edelman, b. Feb 2, 1854, d. May 3, 1854, age 3 mo, 1 day, of debility, buried in Cemetery
May 5.
<bold>First Reformed Church</bold>, Easton, PA
Marriages, pg. 351
Abraham Kocher married Susanna Edelmann July 7,
1801.
<bold>Kreidersville Union Church</bold>, located in Allen
Township, now Leigh County,PA, a part of
Northampton Co., prior to 1813.
Eva Barbara, b. June 17th 1773, parents Johann
Edelmann and Maria Catharina, Sponsors, Conrad
Kreiter and Regina. "No entry" for baptism.
"Burials in the Cemetery of the Church
Catharina M. Edelmann Born Jan 1st 1729
Died Oct 21st 1795
George Edelmann Born Febr. 19th, 1726
Died Apr 8th, 1791"
<bold>Tohicken Church
</bold>"The Rev. John Egidius Hecker was pastor of
the Tohicken Church from 1756-1762, one of his
sons John Born April 12th. 1721 died Mar. 15th
1858 was Married to Eva Catharine Edelman. At
an early period he served as pastor of the
Kreidersville Church, also know as Stone Church
in the Allen township. This is responsible for
Adam Edelmans name appearing in the Allen
township tax list 1761. They were acquainted
with each other." Note: author unknown.
<bold>Christ Evangelical Lutheran Church</bold>, Easton, PA
Admission by Certificate, Apr 9, 1871, James A.
Edelman, Farmersville Congregation (Lutheran),
PA.
<bold>Lower Saucon Reformed Congregation
</bold>
pg. 14, bapt. May 5, 1782, Magdalena, b. Mar
25, 1782, daughter of George Edelman and Eva
Maria, Sponsors, George Heinrich Frantz and
Magdalena, single persons.
pg. 187, deaths:
Aug 16, 1801, Henrich, son of Geo. Edelman, 6 months.
Aug 21, 1801, Maria Magdalena, dau. of George
Edelman, 19 years, 5 months.
Researchers of this family will find numerous
entries in the Deed Books, Will Books, and tax
records at Northampton County, PA. Also, federal
census records beginning year 1790.
Other references are (1) <bold>The Old Graveyard of
Northampton and Adjacent Counties in the State
of Pennsylvania</bold> by John Eyerman, F.Z.S.-Volume
1, June, 1899; (2) manuscript "John Peter Edelman
and Allied Familys" by Forest Edelman which he
reported was placed at the Easton Public
Library and "an old copy at Doylestown";
(3) Eddelman Family Notes Collection at The
Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia,
PA.
I would, also, view http://www.geocities.com/
Heartland/6508/LEHIGH.HTM Note Kachlein. I believe there were several marriages with Edelman members.
Best wishes EDL, Jim
<center><bold>The message is worth sending even if it is never received.
</bold>James D. Groce
LRMC,CMR 402, BOX 462
APO AE 09180
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Subject: [EDDLEMAN-L] NC-Eddleman Date: 30 Nov 97 15:33:02 -0500 From: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com To: Indbio
I am interested in finding information about Peter Eddleman (or Edelmann) and descendants. Originally from Germany via Pennsylvania to NC and settled in Rowan County. Peter>Phillip>Daniel>Jeremiah>Calvin Augustus>Floyd>Robert. Any information is appreciated.
==== EDDLEMAN Mailing List ==== Thanks for being a part of the Eddleman Discussion List. Have you introduced yourself?
Subject: you asked Date: 13 Oct 97 10:40:06 -0500 From: TheAxt@aol.com To: Indbio
Hi there Thank you for your response and the URLs. I don't have any data on Edelmann as my ancestors were in Russia until about 1900. I am new to computers & internet genealogy sites. I don't have a web site. Thanks for your response. ML My ancestors are refered to as Germans from Russia. These Germans from the Alsace, Baden, & Pfalz areas left those areas about 1804-1808 and settled in the Ukraine, South Russia. Many of their decendants came to the US (ND & SD) & Canada around 1890-1910. Those who remained suffered terribly under the Stalin & communist governments. We are just beginning to access records in Russian archives. Hope you don't mind this little history of the Germans from Russia. Mary Lynn Axtman researching from Kutschurgan villages: Axtman, Abel, Bertsch, Braunstein, Burgard (Burckhard), Buechler (Bickler), Dittenhoffer, Gange, Goetz, Ibach (Ebach), Jahner, Keller, Reiter, Roth, Senger, Schneider, Schuck, Schumacher, Schmaltz, Sahli, Thomas, Wildemann. >From Liebental villages: Bohl (Mariental), Meier (? Kleinliebental), Braunstein & Wildemann (Kleinliebental) North Dakota Area Counties: Pierce, McHenry, Benson, Ramsey, Wells.
Subject: Re: Eddleman (Vernon Co., MO. Cemetery) Date: 17 Oct 97 13:23:24 -0500 From: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com To: Indbio
>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:02:39 -0500 >To: "Donna Brown" <garyslady@kcnet.com> >From: "Dr. Bill Eddleman" <weddlema@biology.semo.edu> >Subject: Re: Eddleman (Vernon Co., MO. Cemetery) > >At 05:00 PM 10/16/97 +0000, you wrote: >>Hello Bill, >> >>I think I found your Christopher & Sarah EDDLEMAN: >> >>DEEPWOOD CEMETERY VERNON CO., MO >> >>J.J.EDDLEMON 1859---1929 >>M.D. EDDLEMON 1864---1936 >>C.H. EDDLEMON Nov 7, 1824---Feb 8, 1908 >>Sarah L. EDDLEMON Aug 12, 1837---April 29, 1927 >>William EDDLEMON 1851---1873 >>Maude EDDLEMON 1877---1879 >>Jasper EDDLEMON 1875---1879 >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>MOORE CEMETERY >> >>Amadora DUZAN EDDLEMON 1871---1957 >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>NEWTON CEMETERY >> >>Edna Mae EDDLEMON died July 1985 >>Susie E. EDDLEMON Dec 1, 1863---Sep 25. 1911 >>William P. EDDLEMON 1854---1939 >>Oral N. EDDLEMON 1889---1964 >>Edna B. EDDLEMON 1892----no date >> >>This is all of the EDDLEMON / EDDLEMAN that are listed in the Vernon >>Co., Mo Cemetery book. Mostly all that are listed are ones that have >>a stone, or if someone sent the name in to be published. >> >>I did find a couple of CONRAD'S listed: >>----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>VIRGIL CITY CEMETERY >>Lydia CONRAD Jan 10, 1829---Oct 26, 1888 >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>WELBORN CEMETERY >> >>Mary M. CONRAD May 24, 1829---Jan 26, 1902 >> >>Hope this helps in your research! Happy Hunting!! >> >>Donna
Dear cousins,
Thought I would post this to the list. This family of Eddlemons is the family of my GG-grandfather's brother Christopher H. Eddlemon. Note that they kept the "-on" spelling of the surname. My GG-grandfather William Hager Eddleman was son of Henry Eddleman of Lincoln Co., NC and Perry Co., MO. Henry usually spelled his surname "Edleman" when he signed documents. Just goes to show, you can't depend on spelling to be consistent in the 1800s!
Christopher H. moved from Perry Co., MO to Vernon Co., MO after the Civil War. His wife was Sarah (Conrad). I am slowly piecing their story together!
----Bill
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Contact is as follows: Moravian Archives 4 East Bank Street Winston Salem,North Carolina 27101-5307 Telephone 910-722-1742 Richard W. Starbuck is Asst. Archivist.they do not photocopy their records;instead,they research inquiries and provide reports of their findings. I attempted to visit here in 1992. All my contacts have been by mail. My last letter from them, Sept 1995,does not show a em-mail or FAX address. More Saturday. -- Jim Groce
Subject: Re: Alsace Emigration Book -- Lookup? Date: 26 Oct 97 09:50:36 -0500 From: frfg@worldnet.att.net To: Indbio
The Bausser surname is not in either book, however there is the surname Bausnert, and BAUSHARD. Hope this helps
ubject: Pa. Edelmans Date: 27 Oct 97 17:05:16 -0500 From: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com To: Indbio
Dear cousins,
Trudi has posed a question that I don't really have much of an answer for. I extracted the 1790 Pa. federal census for Eddleman in its many spellings this Sat. (it was available in our local library). There are quite a few, and I don't have a good handle on who most of them were! The only genealogy I have ever seen that carried Pa. Eddlemans forward (note: Addlemans were carried forward in Robert's book) is one that was prepared on the Peter Edelman family in Northampton Co. This family was from the Easton area, and I believe the only surviving son of Peter was a Conrad. This genealogy was in the WHE Collection as I recall, but I didn't have the money to copy the entire thing the day I was there. I noted a copy was also in the Easton, Pa. library the last time I did an Internet search.
It would be nice if we had some local Pa. researchers! I know many of the "unexplained" Eddlemans who appear farther west later in the 19th century must be sons of the Pa. families who stayed in the state.
----Bill
bject: Re: (no subject)NC Eddleman Date: 27 Oct 97 17:24:58 -0500 From: weddlema@biology.semo.edu To: Indbio
At 12:08 AM 10/27/97 -0800, you wrote: >-- >ubject: > Eddleman/Addleman > Date: > 26 Oct 97 19:29:30 -0500 > From: > Gleitz@Netpointe.com > To: > Indbio > >Dear EDL > A man in my home County wrote this to me. I am posting it to the >group, in case, it might be of interest to others. > >Harold: >I located some Eddleman/Addleman in NC records married into my >Eckart/Stroup lines there. Would you be interested or is this David's >line? >I have a Jacob Crist who died 1817 Perry Co., IN. He may have come from >Frederick Co., MD. Possibly a couple of generations later than Jacob >Crist on ship Richard and Elizabeth 1733. >I enjoyed your Ship's List Webpage. Good Idea! >Roger Gleitz >-- > > > > > >==== EDDLEMAN Mailing List ==== >Thanks for being a part of the Eddleman Discussion List. > Have you introduced yourself? > > Harold,
At least one of my Lincoln Co. group married a Stroup, as I recall. Don't recall any Eckarts, so I will send this fellow a message.
----Bill
bject: Archived messages accessible at last! Date: 10 Dec 97 01:02:04 -0500 From: dsam@wasatch.com To: Indbio
Archived messages are now accessable for searching at:
http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl
Just type the name:
Prussia-Roots-L Alsace-Lorraine-L Switzerland-L German-Kingdoms-L Hungary-L Austria-L Lithuania-L Poland-Roots Trier-Roots-L Hesse-L Bavaria-L
in the box for the name of the list, then follow instructions to search all the messages that have been posted on the list.
This should be a good tool for going back to the old messages... especially if you have ever lost a message you wanted to keep.
Or if you want to get to the specific archives in a hurry: http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/PRUSSIA-ROOTS-L/ http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/POLAND-ROOTS http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/SWITZERLAND-L http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/TRIER-ROOTS-L http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/HESSE-L http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/BAVARIA-L http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/GERMAN-KINGDOMS-L http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/ALSACE-LORRAINE-L http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/HUNGARY-L http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/AUSTRIA-L http://lists.rootsweb.com/~archiver/lists/LITHUANIA-L
Please print this out for your binder so you can check back for the missed messages after you return from your vacations - especially your holiday vacations!
W. David Samuelsen, Listmanager
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Can this be the Edelmann ship of the same date.?
Subject: Re: SCHOCH information? Date: 10 Dec 97 18:06:12 -0500 From: bjouaux@worldnet.fr To: Indbio
I have in my wife's genealogy : Mathias SCHOCH born on 02 25 1731 in AMMERSCHWIHR (Alsace dept 68) son of Andreas SCHOCH and Anna Catharina SCHILLINGER My sources are LDS records under reference: 070 6120 No sign of him after. Bernard Jouaux -----Message d'origine----- De : Marcy Ugstad <ugstad@coinet.com> À : Alsace-Lorraine-L@rootsweb.com <Alsace-Lorraine-L@rootsweb.com> Date : mardi 9 décembre 1997 18:18 Objet : SCHOCH information?
>Hello, > I'm researching information on my husband's ancestors and we have >information on a MATHIAS SCHOCH b.12-16-1738 in Alsace-Lorraine. He >immigrated to America, settling in Philadelphia,PA on 9-2-1749. He was >married twice and had at least 11 children. His second wife was a >CATHERINE LISE(?) b.1754 and died 3-5-1832. Mathias died in Snyder >County,PA on 3-10-1812. > Anyone with information on these people, please contact me. THANK YOU! >Also I have information on the decendant's of Mathias son, GEORGE >SCHOCH. >.....Marcy Ugstad Hayward > ugstad@coinet.com > > >==== ALSACE-LORRAINE Mailing List ==== >Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe >Alsace-Lorraine-L users - send to Alsace-Lorraine-L-request@rootsweb.com >Alsace-Lorraine-D users - send to Alsace-Lorraine-D-request@rootsweb.com > > >
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ubject: [EDDLEMAN-L] Fw: Berrier/Barrier-Eddleman Date: 12 Dec 97 22:46:02 -0500 From: EDDLEMAN-L@rootsweb.com To: Indbio
I just received this email and thought I'd pass it along.
Glenn Ray
-----Original Message----- From: Conquest Music, Inc. <conquestmusic@ewol.com> To: eddleman@netusa1.net <eddleman@netusa1.net> Cc: markh@intersource.com <markh@intersource.com> Date: Friday, December 12, 1997 2:33 PM Subject: Berrier/Barrier-Eddleman
>Hello Glen & Mark > >I am researching the Barrier/Berrier/Berger/Burgher/Barger family and >I keep tripping across the name Eddleman. > >I thought I would pass on the information which I have and I hope it >might be a small help to your research. > >>From the book, "Carolina Circle" by Ramsey,page 89 George Henrich >Birrer (or Berger) landed at Philadelphia..possible that George >Henrich Birrer (Berger) and Michel Behringer (Beirger) actually >had the same surname. Birrer acquired a land grant in 1761. >Behringing bought a portion from Birrer the following year. > >(The Rowan county, NC records show this to be true.) > >Ramsey goes on to say that in 1769 Michel and Catherine Barager >leased acres to Peter Eddleman of Northampton Cty, PA. Lease >was proved by George Henry Barager,Esq. From the Rowan Cty >Minutes,11,209 George Berrier was in Conestoga Creek, Lancaster,PA >in 1737. > >This was passed on to me by another Barrier researcher, however, I >have just acquired the will of Col George Henry Berger b 1734 d Mar >30,1820. George was married to Catherine Casper Mar 23 1785. >Children listed are: Henry,Sally,Margaret,Christian Leopard dec'd, >Barbary, >grandsons: David,John & George Masters,John & Henry >Stirewalt,Henry,John,Peter Bargar, and >granddaughters: Catherine Barger wife of Jacob Lyerly,Eliz Barger wife >of Andrew Holshauser,Margaret Barger and Leah Barger. > >Witnessed by: Robert Morgan, Abrasam Siffart and Peter Edelman. > >I note on your webpage the name Sauer and Conrad...both families have >married into the Berrier family. In fact, my ggggg grandmother was >Sarah Sauers, daughter of Phillip Sauers and Sarah was married to George >Barrier. > >Hope this tidbit helps >Stephanie Harrison >
==== EDDLEMAN Mailing List ==== Find additional cousins. Submit to the Eddleman Database. http://www.netusa1.net/~eddleman/eddleman.htm
Dear EDL, there is mention of the Edelmann coat of arms in the Eddelman papers housed at The Historical Society of Pennsylvania. I recall reading correspondence between Donna Edelman and William H. Eddleman wherein a copy of the coat-of arms-was obtained for Donna by William. Incidentally, I probably have a copy of all the Eddleman papers; I have not found it there. We can search for Donna Edelman or her heirs at Easton,PA for the coat-of-arms. Jim Groce
bject: Re: [EDDLEMAN-L] "John" Peter Edelmann Date: 7 Feb 98 13:27:48 -0500 From: jgroce@bunt.com To: Indbio
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At 02:29 PM 2/8/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Dear Jim Groce and EDL.
> Messages #1, #3 #4 and #5 have been entered on eg640.htm
>I am still looking for #2.
> The EDDLEMAN-L archive at rootsweb was very useful. However, he search
>for "Toomer" did no return message #2 of Jim's series.
> #1 Nov 16 immigrant 1730 Sep 5
> #2 not found
> #3 Nov 26 childern of John Conrad Edelmann and Anna Maria Kochert
> #4 Nov 27
> ? Nov 28
>Jim, do you recall if there was exactly 5 messages in the series?
> My many hours searching my e-mail and the rootsweb archive,
>demonstrate the value of distinctive names in the subject or body of
>messages you send to EDDLEMAN. Jim's use of "John" Peter Edelman in this
>series was a great help.
>--
>Harold Eddleman, Ph.D. Microbiology, Genetics, Mol. Biology, Education
>mailto:indbio@disknet.com http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab
>
>
>
>
>==== EDDLEMAN Mailing List ====
>Find additional cousins. Submit to the Eddleman Database.
> http://www.netusa1.net/~eddleman/eddleman.htm
>
>
>Harold,
There were five submissions. Kept a printed copy, I think.
Will go back over them and coordinate another posting, if needed.
Best regards, Jim Groce
<center><bold>The message is worth sending even if it is never received.
</bold>James D. Groce
LRMC,CMR 402, BOX 462
APO AE 09180
</center>
Subject: [EDDLEMAN-L] WilliamH. Eddleman letters Date: 1 Mar 98 13:52:36 -0500 From: joeeddleman@[165.166.16.133] To: Indbio
The following letter was written by William H. Eddleman of Dorcheter, MAss to Donna E. Edelman of Easton, Pa. on Aug. 4, 1962:
Dear Donna, Thank you for your recent card and please excuse my apology for being tardy in answering your earlier letter. I will try to answer some of your questions and also add a little information. To be truthful I am in a situation of concern about your family genealogy deposited at the Easton Public Library by Forest edelman. This is due to the feeling of not wishing to add any information which seems contrary. The family work states that Peter Edelman's wife is Maria Elizabeth Tommer but does not state the source of the material. It is eveident in 1750-1751 there were at least two John Peters with wives Maria Elizabeth. The tax records show a Peter Edelman in Williams as late as 1761. The 1762 a Peter Edelman in Lower Saucon with Adam Edelman in Lower Saucon which would fix the time of Peters death about 1762. Was Adam Edelman of Lower Saucon his brother? What I amj honestly trying to establish in my own mind is wether or not I should treat the family genealogy as infallible or to conceive of it as a work based on the then available records. At this late date it is difficult I know to discern. The name Tommer does not appear early in Williams Twsp. records and later Tamer-Damer-Dammer (German for Thomas) in the Straw Church records of Phillipsburg. As of this date I have found no record of a marriage between Peter Edelman and MAria Elizabeth Edelman, nee Tommer in Germany. Conerning Elizabeth Edelman's widowed life I have yet to find out where she lived with her younf children. Regarding Mr. and Mrs. Victor Edelman of Nazareth he could either be descended from John Edelman of Allens Twsp or John Edelman of Moores Twsp. Where most of my accumulated records in main stop cir. 1850 at this time I would not be able to tell you what his lineage was.
With find regards William H. Eddleman
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