This page gives the German ancestors of Peter Eddleman of Surry County, North Carolina and others. John and Ute Edelmann made the English translations (in blue) for this page. The black text is Dr. Weber's report in German.

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Die Sippe Edelmann im Raum Beerfelden und Rothenberg im Odw.

The Edelmann Clans (lineages) of
Beerfelden and Rothenberg in the Odenwald

These Edelmann families lived in the mountain valleys north of Eberbach which is on the Neckar River. This part of the Odenwald lies northeast of Heidelberg.


a. in Finkenbach

b. in Rothenberg

c. in Ober-Scharbach

d. in Wald-Michaelbach

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Weber uses (A.) to identify the clan that began in Airlenbach and (R.) to denote the clan that began in Rothenberg. The Evangelical (protestant) Church in Beerfelden served all, or most, of the villages mentioned in this document. Weber got most of his information from the records of this church.

A.27.2.1700 = identifies an event as occurring in Airlenbach on 1700 Feb 27.

(F.) IVa Adam E. = Adam Edelmann, first person of the 4th generation of the Finkenbach clan.

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Zeichenerklarung - Explanation of symbols

(F) = Finkenbacher Hauptast - Main trunk of the Finkenbach clan

(A) = Airlenbacher Ast - Airlenbach branch of the Finkenbach clan

(G) = Gammelsbacher Ast - Gammelsbach branch of the Finkenbach clan

(R1) = Rothenberger Ast - Rothenberg branch # 1 of the Finkenbach clan

X = Kinder vorhanden - childern still living

X = der Betreffende ist nach Nord-America ausgewandert - these persons emigrated to America

o = der Betreffende is vermutlich a.N. - Amerika ausgewandert - These persons probably emigrated to North America.

Bemerkungen zur nachstehenden Stammfolge

Die Stammfolge in ihren Anfängen beruht auf der Ausschöpfung von Quellen des Gräfl. Erbach'schen Archivs. die Quellen liegen aber nur in Form enzelner Abschriften vor, die der Lehrer Friedrich Höreth in Mümling-Grunbach vor Jahren gemacht hat.Das Archiv, das dem Stasstsarchive in Darmstadt übereignet worden war, ist bei dem Grossen Brand in Darmstadt (11/12.9.1944) ein Opfer der Flammen geworden.

The first part of the family line is based on information out of the Graeflichen Erbach'sschen Archives. The sources only exist in individual copies that the teacher Friedrich Höreth of Mümling-Grunbach made years ago. The State Archive of Darmstadt, where the originals were held, was a victim of the Great Fire of Darmstadt, (September 11-12, 1944).

Für die Zeit ab Ende des 17. Jahrhunderts standen die Kirchen bücher der evang. Gemeinden vor Beerfelden, Rothen berg und Güttersbach zur Verfügung, die insbesondere anfänglich leider lückenhaft sind. Demzufolge zeight auch die Stammfolge mancherlai Lücken und bisweilen auch Fehler, hinsichtlich det Zusammengehörigkeit verschiedener Glieder.

From the end of the 17th Century, the Evangelische (Lutheran) Church books for Beerfelden, Rothenberg, and Güttersbach were available. However, the records, especially the initial sections, were incomplete. As a result of this, the lineage has gaps, and, sometimes, mistakes in the connections between different family lines.

So dürfte die Einordnung des Joh. Peter Edelman - (R.1) VII als Sohn des Hanss Barthel Edelmann - (F.) VIb sahr [sehr] fraglich sein, allein es war zur Zeit nicht möglich eine andere Lösung zu finden.

The classification of Johann Peter Edelman (R.1) VII as the son of Hans Barthel Edelmann - (F.) VIb is very questionable, though this may be the only connection that could be made at the time.

Betr. Lorez Edelmann - (A.) VII - For the individual Lorez Edelmann - (A.) VII
Der vater ist entweder (A.) VIc oder (A.) VId - The father is either (A.) VIc or (A.) VId

Betr. Joh. Nicklas E. - (F.) VIe - For the indivdual Johann Nicklas Edelmann
Der Heiratseintrag von 1713 had den Vermerk, dass Joh. Nicklas E. nach Rohrbach (bei Sinsheim - Heidelberg) in der Pfalz verzogen ist. Es wäre dort weiter zu forschen.

The marriage record of 1713 has the note that Johann Nicklaus Edelmann relocated to Rohrbach (near Sinsheim - Heidelberg) in the Pfalz. Further research should take place there.

Im Kirchen buch von Beerfelden findet sich unter den 11.5.1752 der Heiratseintrag eines Joh. Peter Edelmann und einder Barbara, geb. Haas. Der Vater des Joh.Peter E, ist der Schweinehirt Valentin E, aus Laudenberg (?) - Die Ortsbezeichnung ist undeutlich geschrieben; vermutlich ist Lauerbach bei Erbach gemeint. Der Heiratseintrag hat den Vermerk, dass das Ehepaar die Absicht had nach Pennsylvanien auszuwandern. Der Name Joh. Peter Edelmann findet sich aber nicht auf einer der Schifflisten von 1752.

There is an entry in the Church register of Beerfelden dated May 11, 1752 for the marriage record of Johann Peter Edelmann and Barbara, born Haas. The father of Johann Peter Edelmann, is pig herder, Valentin Edelmann, from Laudenberg - the city name is not clearly written; it is most likely Lauerbach which is near Erbach. The church marriage record has the note that the couple intended to emigrate to Pennsylvania. However, the name Johann Peter Edelmann was not found in the ship registers of 1752.

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Stammfolge - Family lineage

Versuch einer Rekonstruktion
An Attempt at Reconstruction (of the family line)

(F.) Ia Veltin Edelmann zu Finkenbach ( -F.) Veltin (Valentine)Edelmann of Finkenbach (Finkenbach family line)
    *um 1525; lebt 1550 1); Besitzer der Eberts-Hube 2) (see Hube); Sohn: see II
    born about 1525; alive 1550 (1); owner of Eberts-Hube (2); for son see II 
(F.) Ib ?Barthel Edelmann zu Falken-Gesäss, Beruf: Walkner (Tuchmacher) Occupation: weaver
    *um 1530; Bruder von (F.) Ia? lebt 1575 3)
    born about 1530; may be a brother of Ia (above) living 1575 (see footnote #3 
(F.) II Hans Edelmann, genammt 1575 als Besitzer der Eberts-Hube 2)
    *um 1545; Söhne: sehe IIIa und IIIb for his sons see IIIa and IIIb 
(F.) IIIa Hans Edelmann zu F. 4); *um 1565; oo um 1590; Sohn: sehe IVa married about 1590; see IVa for his son 
(F.) IIIb _______________; *um 1570; oo um 1600; Sohn: sehe (F.) IVa1 married about 1600 
(F.) IVa Adam Edelmann 5); *um 1590; oo um 3) 6.21617 mit Cathatina Krieg, T.d. Segastian Krieg zu Falken-Gesäss;
    Sohn; sehe Va 2) 6); seit etwa 1650-1700 auf der bereits 1460 genannten "Veith-Hube* in Finkenbach 6)
    John put translation here of seit etwa 1650-1700 auf der bereits 1460 genannten "Veith-Hube* in Finkenbach
(F.) IVa1 Adam Edelmann, der Alte (Sr.); *1606 err,(calc'd); oo etwa 1635; + F.27.1.1681 (75 J. age);
    Kinder childern: son sehe (F.) Va-1 - Vc-1 2)
(F.) Va ? Peter Edelmann genannt nach 1659 als Besitzer d. Steinerts-Hube 7)
(F.) Va-1 Adam Edelmann, der Junge (Jr.), , verzieht nach Airlenbach (-A.) Moved to Airlenbach
    * 1606 err.; + A.27.2.1709 (72 J)
    oo 8) (eheberedung) married 8.10.1661 mit Margreta Schäffer,
    (*1637 err.; + A.215.1694, 57 J. alt, We.d.Hans Sch. zu A.
    Kinder: sehe (A.) VIa - VIg    not sure I understand all this esp. Va 1 widow of Hans Schaeffer of Airlenbach
Weber has used the same numbers twice (perhaps)needs work
(F.) Vb-1 ?Hans Peter E., *um 1640; genannt 1690 als letzter Besitzer der Olfners-Hube 2) 
    listed in 1690 as the last holder of Olfners-Hube
(F.) Vc-1 Barthel E., * 1641 err.; + Ober-F.9.4.1693 (52 J.)
    oo um 1678 mit Christina ___; Kinder sehe VI-a - VI-e Weber has used the same numbers twice needs work

Kinder von Adam Edelmann - (F.) Va 1

*zu Airlenbach childern (below are) born in Airlenbach; notice Adam of Finkenbach has moved to Airlenbach to rear his kids thus starting the Airlenbach branch of the family.
(A.) VIa Eva E., *1664; +A.4.9.1705 (41 J.4 M.3W.) - rote Ruhr (red Ruhr caused death) 
    oo Beerfelden ( - B,\.* 29.1.1695 mit Leonhard Reippold, S.d.+ Gerichtsverw. Peter R. zu B.
(A.) VIb Margretha E., etwa 1665/66; + Keilbach 3.2.1690 (24 J.)
    oo Keilbach 6.5.1684 mit Adam Keyser, S.d.Hans Keyser
(A.) VIc Hans Adam E., *etwa about 1669; war lt. Gemeindezählung v. 1678 9 Jahr alt. später nicht mehr im K.B. von B.
    He was lt Gemeindezählung v. 1678, age 9, but never appears again in the church records of Beerfelden 
(A.) VId Hans Jacob E., *etwa 1670; 1678 8 Jahr alt.
(A.) VIe Anna Barbara E. ~16.9.1677; lebt noch 1705
    oo Falken-Gesäss s.8.1698 mit Hans Jacob Fischer, S.d.Conrad Fischer zu Fs. Prob meant Falken-Gesäss
(A.) VIf Anna Edelmann, ~12.4.1680, lebt noch 1705;
    oo A.1.2.1702 mit Hans Georg Hess, S.d. Adam H. zu A Son of Adam Hess of Airlenbach 
(A.) VIg Hans Peter E., ~13.4.1684; Konfirmiert zu confirmed in B.19.6.1698, lebt noch 1705
    Sohn von (A.)VIc oder (A.) VId: Son of __ or __ 
(A.) VII Lorenz E., *A.21,1.1693 err.; + A.7.3.1732
    oo B, etwa 1720 mit ___ 
    oo sie II 23.10.1732 mit Johannes Schäffer zu Güttersbach
    Lorenz's widow remarried 1732 Oct 23 to Johannes Schäffer of Güttersbach

Kinder von Lorenz E. - (A.) VII: childern of Lorenz of Airlenbach 

(A.) VIIIb Anna Margretha E., *A.24.8.1723
(A.) VIIIc Johann Adam E., *A.6.11.1724; + U.S.A   Emigrated to America
    oo Lancaster 8.9.1757 mit Juliane Thorwarth
    + Lancaster 22.9.1781 (angeblich, *1729); hinterliess 4 kinder; darunter eines + 9.8.1759
    died Lancaster, PA, 1757 Sep 8 (supposedly born 1729) had four childern, possibly surviving, one child died 1759 Aug 22.
    John you have already given a translation, but here it is in context
(A.) VIIId Georg Adam E., *A.12.3.1729; + Hainbrun 27.2.1784
    Der Vermerk "+ Hainbrunn" findet sich im K.B. von Beerfelden
    The note "died in Hainbrunn" is found in the Beerfelden church records 
(A.) VIIIe Joh. Michael E., *A.24.9.1731;           Emigrated to America??
    Wahrscheinlich ausgewandert 1754 nahc (sic) Nord-Amerika
    probably emigrated in 1754 to North America

Kinder von Barthel Edelmann. - (F.) Vc1 

(F.) VIa Christina Edelmann, *F. ~Rothenberg 31.5.1679
    oo R.10.12.1693 mit Hans Jacob Webbrer, Wr
(F.) VIb Hans Barthel Edelmann, *F. ~R.8.6.1682
    oo I etwa 1711 mit ___  she died before 1717
        Childern out of marriage I(?) see (R.1) VII
    oo II B.7.5.1717 mit Anna Elisabeth Schumpert, dau of Heinrich Schumpert of Gammelsbach
        Kinder aus oo II see (G.) VIIa-i
(F.) VIc Anna Maria Eddleman, *F. ~R.2.2.1685; + Ober-Finkbach.8.1.1691 (age = 5J 11M 2W)
(F.) VId Georg Eddleman, *F. ~R.6,1,1688; + F.11.4.1757
    oo R.3.2.1717 mit Anna Lentz zu Ober-Sensbach; Childern = see (F.) VIIa, VIIb
(F.) VIe Johann Nicholaus Eddleman, ~Ober-Finkbach.5.4.1691; + not known
    oo R.1.2.1713 mit ___; verzogen nach Rohrbach (b.Heidelberg) moved to Rohrbach which is near Heidelberg

Kinder von Georg Edelmann. - (F.) VId

(F.) VIIa Anna Elisabeth Edelmann, *F.3.2.1725; + F.3.4.1725
(F.) VIIb Johann Georg Edelmann, * ___; + before 1761
    oo B.2521743 mit Anna Elisabeth Faig dau of Joh. Georg Faig, Gemeinsmann und Wirt zu Finkenbach
    sie oo II B.21.4.1761 She remarried in 1761 after her husband died

Kinder von Joh. Georg Edelmann. - (F.) VIIb 

(F.) VIIIa Anna Margretha Edelmann, *1743; + F.3.12.1743
(F.) VIIIb Maria Barbara Edelmann, *1747; + F.4.5.1763

Kinder von Hanss Barthel Edelmann. - (F.) VIb

Kinder of Hanss Barthel first marriage
(R.1) VII Joh. Peter Edelmann, *15.4.1712 err.; + R.15.12.1754 (42J 8M) 
    oo I R.52.1737 mit Anna Margaretha Bender (* 1710 + 15.2.1746), dau of Schultheissen Joh. Peter Bender of Brombach Kinder see (R.1) VIII a-k
    oo II R.15.7.1746 mit Anna Katharina Heckmann (*R.17.7.1718, T.d. Sebastian Hechman 
Kinder of the Hanss Barthel second marriage
(G.) VIIa Johann Georg Eddleman *G.7.9.1718
(G.) VIIb Anna Elisabeth Eddleman, *G.6.5.1720;
    oo B.21.0.1739 mit Ludwig Kauffman, S.d. Johannes K. zu Unter-Sensbach
(G.) VIIc Maria Barbara Edelmann, *G.15.2.1722; + G.16.2.1722
(G.) VIId Maria Barbara Edelmann, *G.20.1.1723; + G.11.2.1728
(G.) VIIe Johann Justus Edelmann, *G.23.6.1725; ausgewandert nach Nord- Amerika
    shiplist: Brothers 1752 Sep 22       Emigrated to America
    oo Bedminster (PA, USA) 22.2.1757 mit Christina Schäffer
(G.) VIIf Maria Catharina Edelmann, *G.26.10.1727; + G.27.10.1727
(G.) VIIg Anna Christina Edelmann, *G.17.10.1728; + G.29.6.1732
(G.) VIIh Joh. Georg Edelmann, *G.25.2.1731; ausgewandert nach Nord-Amerika
    oo B.4.4.1752 mit Anna Margaretha Löher, T.d. Joh. Adam L. zu Rothenberg
    shiplist: Brothers 1752 Sep 22       Emigrated to America
    Kinder in USA = Georg, John, Maria Barbara, Maria Magdalena, Margret.

Kinder von Joh. Peter Edelmann. - (R.1) VII

aus oo I - Childern of Joh. Peter's First Marriage
(R.1) VIIIa Anna Christina Edelman, *R.10.1.1738
(R.1) VIIIb Joh. Adam E. *R.19.10.1739
(R.1) VIIIc Maria Margaretha Edelmann, *R.31.3.1742; R.27.3.1745
(R.1) VIIId Joh. Peter Edelmann, *R1.12.1744 +R.27.3.1745
(R.1) VIIIe Joh. Georg Edelmann, *R.11.2.1746; +R.21.2.1746
aus oo II - Childern of Joh. Peter's Second Marriage
(R.1) VIIIf Maria Katharina Edelmann *R.1.9.1747; +R.16.9.47
(R.1) VIIIg Anna Katharina Edelmann *R.16.9.1748;
(R.1) VIIIh Joh. Georg Edelmann, *R.9.9.1750;
(R.1) VIIIi Joh. Peter Edelmann, *R29.4.1753;
(R.1) VIIIj Maria Elisabeth Edelmann, *R.20.3.1755;

END OF Weber's Part Ba

--- Fussnoten --- footnotes; most apply to generations I thru V ---

Translations by John and Ute have been added to this section. Completed.

1) genannt in "Erbacher Schatzung v. 1557 (s. "Mitteilungen) d. Hess. Familiengesch. Vereinigung (H.F.V) Bd. IV, 59
appears in Erbacher Schatzung of 1557 (see notes/appendix) in the Hess Family Historical Society (H.F.V.) Vol 4, page 59

2) - "das grosse Gültbuch d.Amtes Freienstein i.O.", Verz. d. Bauernhöfe v.1450-1750 Guildbook of the city of Freienstein.

3) - genannt im "Gültbuch v. Falken-Gesäss" appears in Guildbook of Falken-Gesäss

4) - gen. im "Amtsprotokoll d Amtes Freienstein" von 1617 appears in the civil records (court) of the city of Freienstein in 1617

5) - Einwohnerverzeichnis d. Grafschaft Erbach v. 1626 Citizen Registery

6) - im K.B. von Beerfelden (gemeindezählung in F.V. 18.4.1678) in the Church Books of Beerfelden

7) - im K.B. von Beerfelden (gemeindezählung in A.V. 2.5.1678) in the Church Books of Beerfelden

8) - gen. im "Amtsprotokoll von 1661" (Eheberedungen) appears in the civil records of 1661

Everything above this line is the work of Weber and translators. Below this line are comments by other researchers to clarify Webers work, point out errors, or add lineages to Weber's work.

Hube - James Groce (jgroce@bunt.com) has added the following note to clarify the meaning of Eberts-Hube.
"I did some checking with my wife and son-in-law, who has a background in surveying and engineering: Eberts, they believe, is simply a person's name. Hans Bahlow Deutsches Namen Lexicon, pgs 250-251, refers to hube and huber as a measurement of sixty "morgen". A morgen is 2,500-5000 square meters and varies in some geographical jurisdictions. So, one explanation is that Veltin Edelmann was the owner of a large tract of land.

Anna Margaretha Schäfer notes from James Groce jgrpce@bunt.com
I last visited Beerfelden in October 1995; looked around, identified the area churches, made a few phone calls. I have a 16Sep96 letter from Evangelisches Kirchengemeinde Beerfelden/Odenwald (Pfarrer S. Arras) which states the following:
Johann Peter Edelmann, b. 7Sep1727, Gammelsbach married Anna Margaretha Schäfer 27Apr1752 at Beerfelden.
Anna Margaretha Schäfer was born 18Oct1729 at Ober Sensbach.
Johann Peter Edelmann is shown as a "witwer" or widower in the "Auszug aus dem Trauregister". Earlier, he married Anna Barbara Haas, but that date is not clear to me. Notice that Weber wrote Hanss Peter Edelmann first married Catharina Joh. who died 10 months after marriage. There much disagreement between Weber' report and that of Pfarrer Arras.
Johann Peter's father is shown as Lorenz Edelmann, born 21Jan1693; died 7Mar1732(locations need clarification). His wife was a Anna Eva ______; born abt 1693; died 21Dec1735,"alt 42 jhr". Died age 42.

Anna Margaretha Schaefer's parents and paternal grandparents are identified as follows: father, Johannes Schaefer b. 13Nov1693, Ober Sensbach; died 22Sep1745; mother Anna Catharina Seip, b. 2Sep1695, Ober Sensbach; died 11Feb1771; this couple married 29May1721.
Paternal GF Adam Schaefer, b. abt 1658 Ober Sensbach; died 18June1703; paternal GM Margaretha Kayser, b. abt 1661, Kailbach, died 11July1729; this couple married 24Jan1683. I will FAX or snailmail these documents to anyone who asks.

Tomorrow or Thursday, I will list the children of Barbara Edelmann Gross taken from the Moravian Archives (Edelmanns are often shown as baptismal sponsors).They were Lutheran and Reformed, not Moravian. Also, I will list other Edelmann family names and provide citations.

As a matter of possible interest, I recently received a copy of German Links:Horst's Hints For German Research by Horst A. Reschke(hreschke@juno.com). He talks about the "quintessential" German publication GENEALOGIE and some of its articles including village books and seems willing to give English translations.

This is the Temporary End of some fine information by James Groce. More is coming