Pioneer Eddleman Geneologists
By Harold Eddleman, Ph.D., Palmyra, Indiana, USA
Here is a little information about the geneologists mentioned in this web site. I also want to take this opportunity to thank them for the long hours they spent writing me letters. While I always hoped to find something to help them, they had already sifted the sands so thoroughly that I seldom found anything they had not already seen. One goal of this site is to place Eddleman information from these researchers and others in one place so we can all spend less time writing and more time looking.
Claude Eddleman, was my father and was my first source of information about my ancestors. He said far as I can tell, 3 brothers came from Germany. However, I have found much information and none of it supports the 3 brothers tradition.
Louise Eddleman, Springfield, Kentucky, wrote me while I was in the Army in Germany asking if I had any Eddleman data to share. I did not. I could only relate the tale of "Three Brothers" which my father had told me. Her husband Robert was a Vo-ag teacher and farmer and had an interest in the Revolutionary War. On hearing that my grandfather was named Francis Marion Eddleman, he suggested my family might have had strong ties to North Carolina because Francis Marion was a Revolutionary War general called the Swamp Fox because of his ability to strike the British and disappear into the swamps. Louise already knew about my Catherine Eddleman ancestor, but I did not. She gave me a copy of the deed conveying the Kentucky farm of 1778 when it was sold in 1811. I have misplaced that deed, but I hope to enter it in this site.
William R. Eddleman, attorney-at-law, Dallas, Texas, wrote me 1977 Sep 4, recalling our earlier correspondence (1956) and asking if I had come across any info about Boston or Sebastian Eddleman, wife = Sarah Pratt, who lived in PA, 1758-64, and later received a land grant in North Carolina in 1786. During the intervening 20 years, he had worked hard on Eddleman Geneology and knew most of the literature on the early Eddleman in America. I have never found any errors in his work or in his outlines of possible lineages. His work is the solid foundation upon which all current Eddleman Geneolgy is based. Sadly, he has never found the parents of his "Boston Eddleman" ancestor. I fear he may have passed away by now. He began practicing law in 1940. In 1948, he was one of the young men on the team at the Philadephia Convention backing Tom Dewy for the President of the USA. I will put a link here to a page of the Eddleman data and ideas he has sent me.
his address and phone. They are not online.
Verlin and his wife were my first contact with the Daniel Eddleman part of Catherine Eddleman's family. In his first letter to me, he sent many pages of descendants of Daniel Eddleman and I will list them in this site. I called Verlin in July 1997, but he was ill and does not remember the geneology work he did. His wife is still very interested in the geneology work the whole family worked on. I had long hoped to meet someone from the Daniel section of our family. However, Verlin had no bibles or family traditions from the Kentucky days of 1778.
William H. Eddleman, a history professor living in Dorchester, Massachusetts, planned to write a book on the Eddleman of America. His data is now in the Philadelphia Hist Soc. I did learn of his data until 1978 and Glenn and went to see it June 1979. Due to the gasoline shortage, we did not get to spend but a few hours there and did not find any information that would enable us to prove a link from Catherine Eddleman back to North Carolina. Joe Kenworthy Eddleman has made the Germany pages of the WHE Collection available and I will eventually get them all entered in this site.
Sharon Renner of Columbus Indiana made some family bible data from Daniel Eddelman families in Indiana available to me, but she had nothing that helped with the KY or NC days of our family.
The following have submitted these autobiographical notes to provide a foundation for understanding their current research and also to foster friendship among Eddleman researchers by telling you a little about their work and families.
We hope you will do the same. You may want to give some info on your early ancestors, your current efforts, and any help you can offer others such as lookups in books you own or local libraries, ability to read foreign languages, or any thing on any subject. Do not be concerned about you biograph getting too long. Feel free to send a new biograph anytime you wish. They sent these as an e-mail and it worked fine.
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My name is David W. Eddleman from Oberlin, Ohio. My email address is: email@example.com. My "Eddleman Family Genealogy" is at: http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/DavidEddleman/EDDLEFAM/index.htm My family line is: Unknown =>David Eddleman and Elizabeth Adams (Lincoln Co. NC) => Moses Eddleman => John C. Eddleman => David Ras Eddleman => Dovard Giger Eddleman => Dewey R. Eddleman => David W. Eddleman (me)
Harold Eddleman, 14045 Huff St. Palmyra IN 47164-8872. 812-364-6739; firstname.lastname@example.org
I am age 65. I earned a Ph.D. in Biophysics (molecular genetics) from Purdue in 1966. I have served on the faculties of California Institute of Technology, University of Illinois, Murray State University, and Wayne State Medical School. My research has been with atherosclerosis, genetic basis of morphogenesis in virus T4D, virology of strawberry, blackberry, raspberry, and sweetpotato. Plant breeding: maize, strawberry, thornless blackberry, and daylillies. I was the first person to present evidence that structural proteins are activated by clipping a part off. The same was soon found true for Polio virus and then insulin. But the real proof came later in England. My most recent contribution was the hypothesis that crops like sweetpotato lose their trueness to type via somatic embryogenesis and that they will retain their conformation if maintained by vine cuttings rather than using roots as is the common practice. Field tests by North Carolina State University over a five-year period showed my plants yielded three times as much as the best NC Certified plants of the same variety. Sweetpotato Certified Services now copy my methods and have mostly put me out of that business.
My current goals are using dynamic HTML and ASP for teaching molecular biology, genetics, and microbiology via the Internet, especially to help high school students who wonder if they have what it takes to be a professional or teacher in the life sciences. During college and immediately afterward, I made a point of studying agriculture by visiting and working on farms in 40 states and 17 countries.
By chance, WHE and I both visited Beerfelden Church the same month in 1957 looking for Edelmann roots. Since my family has always lived in the region where Catherine Eddleman lived on her KY and IN farms, I have access to any extant records from those 220 years in Harrison and Floyd Counties of Indiana and the libraries of the Kentucky Historical Museum, Filson Club, University of Louisville, and Sons of the American Revolution. I seldom get to those places, but would be happy to lookup anything you can think of as it would aid my goals also. I have firmly documented Catherine and her sons back to the 1778 land grant in KY but found no mention of her or any Eddleman in the early KY days.
Christine M. Eddleman-Buzek; email@example.com
I'm a housewife, mother of two boys (20 and 25), grandmother of two granddaughters (16 and 17 months) and a grandson due in Jan. I just began doing family research in Feb. this year when I received the Family Tree Maker program. Having grandchildren made us want to get family info written down for them and their children while our parents (in their 70's) were still here to tell us the stories and tell us who the photographs were. Our research has provided us with tin types, naturalization papers, a Slovak birth certificate (one grandfather came from Yugoslavia in 1906!), family Bibles and wonderful old photos!
I feel like I am treasure hunting! I am searching for the Eddleman's from Hundred, WVA. My father, Donald Edward (1924-1984): grandparents, Earl Jolly (1892-1947) married Ruth May Sisler(they lived in Ohio and had 9 children): Great-grandparents: Jefferson Eddleman(1859-1921) and Mary Sellers (1874-1966). Mary Sellers, born in Rogersville, PA, parents were James Sellers and Rebecca. Mary is buried at Sand Hill Cemetary, PA.
Thanks again Harold. I just can't imagine the challenge of research without the Internet. Are we spoiled or what!! I'll be looking forward to your bio first of the week.
Ute and John Edelmann 2594 Pekin Rd. Franklin OH 45005 firstname.lastname@example.org
I've been reseaching genealogical histories since about 1974 when I endeavored to earn the Genealogical Merit Badge in the Boy Scouts. My father, Paul Fred, was instrumental in collecting a majority of the initial information. Our initial research was aided immensely with the discovery of existing Edelmann family members in northern Bavaria, in a little town called Stangenroth. This is ESE of Frankfurt.
In addition, we have Hofacker relatives in Braeunlingen (in the Black Forest) back to 1624, Helfenbein in Osthofen north of Mainz on the Rhein, and Seidel in Oberschopfheim, south west of Strasbourg. Whether or not the Eddleman/Edelmann research of the present web site links up with the Edelmaenner (as the plural would be spelled) of my family is hard to say. Perhaps there will be an ancestor who left the Alsace area and moved during the 1600s-1700s to northern Bavaria. A notable dissimilarity between the various families in the EGL and mine is the fact that the Edelmann of my ancestry are long-time adherents to Catholicism, in keeping with the general nature of Bavaria as a whole, vs, the Evangelische (Lutheran) faith of the others. I believe, however, that it is fairly confusing to try and trace faith/religion by last name... except for some Jewish names, perhaps. Nearly everywhere I've been, "Edelmann" is accounted as being a very traditionally "Catholic" name... go figure!.
It would be interesting to locate a resource that describes the likelihood of migrating families in the 1600-1700s in Germany... was it likely, or a very rare occurence?
My most persistent Genealogical questions are actually in regard to the family HOLOBAUGH, whose records date back to 1819 with the birth of my great-great-grandfather, Samuel, in Armstrong Co., PA. We have been unable to pursue this further.
Presently, I am a computer consultant with Digital Equipment Corporation, on assignment with the Defense Logistics Agency at WrightPatterson Airforce Base, in Ohio. My wife, Ute, is a German national, having moved here in 1989, with Siemens AG of Germany. Her mother, Helga, moved here permanently in 1996 in part, to help provide day-care for our daughter, Erika, born June 1996. I am 35.
Editor added the following which John sent earlier.
Subject: RE: Eddleman Discussion List Date: 23 Sep 97 09:24:22 -0500 From: email@example.com To: Indbio
Harold wrote: > > I hope you will join EDDLEMAN-L, a discussion list devoted to all >variations of the Edelmann name. If you visit the URL above you will >find a link for joining EDDLEMAN-L. We have 20+ members at present. > We are still trying to learn how the Eddleman variant arose. It seems >most of these Edelmann came to America 1730-1760 from Alsace and >Odenwald and used their true name in church records but the British >civil offices gave them some form of Eddleman spelling. > I really hope you will join EDDLEMAN-L right away because some data on >Edelmann in Germany has come in and by contributing what you know of >German origins you may keep us from being too regional in our views. I >am in the process of posting about 300 names in German families of 1400 to 1800 from the William H. Eddleman collection.
Liebe Edelmaenner und Eddlemans!
(Just a little German to get things started off on the right foot)
The following is somewhat lengthly... I not sure what's expected here... so if I offend anyone with the quantity... I apologize in advance. I'm nevertheless happy to discover a group taking a very studied approach to these matters.
I have joined, I hope. Firstly, as I mentioned to Harold in my initial response, I was amazed to have been contacted by an Eddleman... I have spent my life trying to make sure the name is pronounced "correctly"; the spelling with 2 d's is certainly the anglicized version of it at its best.
BUT, given the dates of entry of your clans/lines, etc., it is quite apparent that a change would have been made by the political bodies governing the area.
Since my earliest emigrating ancestor wasn't here until atleast 1889, (In the person of Bruno Edelmann), there was little desire to change the name. I can understand the difficulty of trying to find a German connection in the absence of ship records, etc., when the emigrant lived in the mid 1700's. The David Edelmann find is indeed a prodigious accomplishment!
In any event, many of you have seen the web page at http://mozart.daas.dla.mil/genealog.html. I might mention that my father, Paul Frederick (deceased Oct 9, 1995) and I began genealogical research in 1975, as I was working on the Genealogy merit badge with the Boy Scouts.
He was instrumental in getting the ball rolling ... at that time ,all my grandparents were alive and well, so they assisted greatly.
The pronounciation of the name Edelmann is, in German, long "A"delmann, in sound, a point that my grandfather made at every opportunity. He was the only son of Bruno, the emigrant (he had 2 sisters). Bruno died at the age of 36 of stomach cancer in Circleville Oh, and his wife, Elizabeth Helfenbein, a family from Osthofen, along the Rhine (near Mainz) remarried to John Kent, in Waverly Ohio. Fortunately, adoption wasn't common, and my grandfather kept the name of his German ancestory.
Being from Bavaria, in what might be considered Middle Frankonia (the very northern part), our line of Edelmanns was and is devoutly Catholic. Thus, it was with considerable consternation that Elizabeth (a Evangaelische - Lutheran) agreed to marry my greatgrandfather, Bruno. Her father disowned her. In addition, Bruno was 11 years her senior.
In any event, Bruno left Stangenroth, a small village in an area of several small villages (including Burkadroth) about 5km from the Kreuzberg, a mountain in the Rhoen where a monument and monastery was erected when St. Kilian brought Christianity to the area about 688 or so.
There is a history written of the area, which begins with the Roman era. Fr. Anton Reinhard wrote this document. It is in German. I have a copy, should anyone be interested (and able) to study it, let me know.
I could go on, but let me suggest that I have a history written up, which I now know can be converted to HTML. I'll do that, and add it too my Web pages.
Let me add a bit of personal info to introduce myself. I'm a system consultant with Digital Equipment Corporation, on site at WPAFB in Dayton OH. My wife is Ute [Herfurth] Edelmann, formerly of Karlsruhe, Germany, and her mother, Helga Wehrle, is also from there, though she has moved to the United States permanently.
As my mother-in-law doesn't speak English very well, we speak a lot of German. My mother-in-law is also fairly adept at reading old German manuscript (such as is used in Church Records prior to 1920's). She was able to trace back one of the Seidel lines back to the late 1700's to a town along the Rhine, OberSchopfheim.
Harold, most maps of Bavaria (even atlases) should have the area around Bad Kissingen (which was a summer home of the Kaisers) in fair detail. Other villages in the area include Wollbach, Zahlbach, and Gefaell.
As I mentioned previously, I've been to the area 3 times since 1986, and just about everyone in the 3 neigbhoring villages is related at some generation back. We have cousins on every block. My relatives there call me "Johannes".
The big caveat about all this, is, however (and perhaps you all are aware as well ... if so forgive me for repeating), that while Edelmann/Eddleman may not be terribly common here in the states, it is a common german name, being formed from two german words, and being a german word itself, meaning "nobleman". However! Adelmann is actually a "more" noble form, and above that, you start seeing titles, etc. In other words, as it was explained to me, "Edelmann" is about as low in rank as one can get, and still be above the typical commoner.
Another note regarding naming, that is probably know as well (sorry!) is that it was very common for sons to be given a standard first name (Johann, e.g.) and then the given name as the second name. Thus, my great grandfather Bruno, was actually baptized Johann Bruno; many of his brothers also had Johann as the first name. It is also interesting to note that the name Michael was very common among the ancestors.
It is clear from the points of origin, that the Edelmann who emigrated from the far western parts of the country (Alsac) were Lutheran; A majority of people along the Rhine are.
Whether or not some early Edelmann left Stangenroth and moved to points west in the 1500-1600 era is anyone's guess. Unfortunately, except in the case of a very astute minister, depending on where you are, most churches didn't start keeping records of commoners until around the 1620's . Trying to find a link between the Bavarian Edelmanns and others might be totally impossible.
Nevertheless, there are certainly other Edelmanns in the United States and elsewhere who are descended from the Stangenroth clan, since there were many generations of them, and who can say who left where/when.
To thanks for the invitation to join, and I hope we can further our collective knowledge in time. Perhaps my most beneficial contribution will be in my understanding and familiarity with Germany, since my roots originate there much more recently (by nearly 150 years) than the Hans David Edelmann connection mentioned in the referenced web site. Since my mail site is at work, I typically respond to queries/comments during the day. I do not usually check my mail on the weekend.
More that John Edelmann sent earlier:
ubject: RE: John Edelmann Family Page Date: 25 Sep 97 11:22:22 -0500 From: firstname.lastname@example.org To: Indbio
snip > >already have a website, I hope you can write a page giving an >introduction to your family and links to your site.
Okay... I assume a simple text based html document can be mailed to you or something? How do I send it to you? In it I would include links to the pertinent items at my site. I'm not sure how long it will be the actual one I'll use.... but I can notify you when it changes with an update. >I am still uncertain >where your Edelman lived in Germany. I found Bad Kissing--?? but I don't >know if it is the right one. I have found everything you have written >very interesting. Of course you can modify and revise the page(s) as >often as you need. It appears you already write your webpages and you >can sent it as an .htm file. Or as Glenn said yesterday, the simplest >method for keeping your EGL pages up to date is merely to have a short >page on EGL that links to the various aspects of your own site.
That's what we'll do then. but see above as far as transfer method.
As for initial inclusion on page:
Here are my stats:
John Frederick Edelmann, email email@example.com 2594 Pekin Rd. Franklin OH 45005 Genealogy web-site: http://mozart.daas.dla.mil This is my home page, I suppose, with the genealogical link listed thereon. The text of the family history is at
I will be updating this frequently, now that I have an audience, and will include several maps of the area as links from it to help you locate the area (it's just northeast of Wurzburg).
I'm 35, wife Ute (32), 1 daughter, Erika Paula Edelmann 15 mos.
As I mentioned in a previous memo, I seriously doubt that records exist to connect the Edelmann branches of western-Germany with those of the Roehn (o umlaut) - regardless of whether or not they are, in fact. Nevertheless, I think that it would be good to have a way for WEBresearchers to have pointers to Edelmanns regardless of origin at one handy site. Your libary of pages is a fine work to that end.
btw, I am planning to be in Germany next February (1998) for a week. I will be spending a day or two in Stangenroth, weather permitting.
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